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I'm not offering any particular or specific recommendation because I don't know enough about the issue, but yes, that's the KIND of thing that could be considered, if the issue is too much ISK being printed too easily by carriers.

Here's an idea. What about making it impossible for carriers to run the current spawns, but create an entirely new spawn that is more difficult than the current ones, potentially even containing capship rats, and let carriers run those instead? Wouldn't that be better than "duhhh... economy no good... NERF CARRIERS." If I could think of that off the top of my head in 5 seconds, why couldn't one of these genius developers?

If the issue is the economy, then there are a million things that could, and should be done, over "nerf carrier fighters and call it a day." I'm not sure if the issue is laziness to consider and do something about the real issue, or simple stupidity.

Again, this is all assuming what others have stated - that the issue they were trying to address was the economy, not something else.

Um... this is flatly false, even I know enough law to know that.

If you're disabled you have no reasonable expectation to be able to play a game at the same level as someone with two functioning hands and the same goes for any other disability. If we were to follow your issue here to its logical conclusion then FPS games would also need to accommodate one-handed players, blind players, and all sorts of other things that it's simply ridiculous to expect them to accommodate without dumbing down the game to the point of removing all challenge from it.

I'm all for more discussion on these changes, preferably with examples, but this line of argument is just ridiculous.[/quote

If you sell a blind people comptaible game and change after ... you are against consumer act.
Here it's same in fact. You muste never you're accessibility. And if you want you must paid the price .

Have you tried holding down W and clicking on something near the next spawn, such as a gate, wreck, asteroid. It commands your fighters to orbit whatever you click on without locking it. Thus they have transversal up before they get aggro.

afaik with the tactical overlay turned on the navigation hotkeys Q W and E apply to fighters rather than your hull.

LeL

There is no one major sink - destroyed Citadels / burned fuel / destroyed ships

ONE single Keepstar take out 300B out of the game


Look at killboard prior patch - every day ratting Super was killed, now calculate how many hours you need to spend to replace that loss

Calculate how many hours you need to replace carrier loss

And now CCP take from us ability to generate ISK that help us to replace our combat losses = less pvp = less fun = new MMO


oh CCP
New Render Su.CK give us an option so we can choose

Same latency they have alpha my fighter (and i have drone durability rigs + thanatos perfect).

And when you play only with mouse: they kill fighter to.

CCP must correct beug before patch something.

My fighter its dead. NYX. Th CCP you best.... fuk eve dev

Not an isk sink. Paying a NPC station to repair your damaged ship is an isk sink. A better LP store is an isk sink. Broker fees are a sink.

Ships, modules, citadels only sink minerals and salvage, not isk.

Now regarding the fighters.

Dear CCP. If I wanted to play starcraft with 500 apm or whatever starcraft player's apm is, I'd go and play starcraft.

Please make it less of a clickfest. Ideally carrier pve should be as much afk as possible, which in turn create more pvp opportunities and we all be much happier.

I have removed a post and one quoting it.

Multiboxing AFK-tars is only worthwhile if you're doing more with however many accounts, less ~1b per addition account for the cost of PLEX. So for an average player with only one or a few accounts they're better off just running the one Carrier for way larger ticks for whatever limited play time they have than running 3-4 AFK-tars unless they're running them enough every month to get that 1b plus whatever you could get from a Carrier running in that same time.

You're talking potentially maybe more subs at the expense of bad and engaging gameplay that's less satisfying to do. AFKing isn't gameplay, it's the antithesis of it. Plus it's aggravating if someone else is doing just as well or better AFK as you're doing active and at the keyboard, which pushes *everyone* towards AFKing, which believe it or not not a ton of people actually enjoy.

I get that maybe you don't enjoy current Carrier gameplay, but it sounds like the reason you don't enjoy it is because you're expected to be sat there actually doing something, not because it's significantly more micro than any other piece of PvE in the game currently that *isn't* AFK.