EVE General Discussion

An ISD took risk to try and explain his position/situation, for the benefit of readers.
I have never seen an ISD be so candid and open, or post as long an explanation.
He took great pains to be fair, considerate, factual and offer a are glimpse behind the curtain to the people/players ISD are.

Furthermore, Ive never seen a thread with as many individual ISD respondents as in this one.
Its unprecedented, afaik.

Yet this is how you choose to respond?

At best, you are wasting a unique opportunity to engage on equal ground, as leeway has been allowed here.
Instead you have folded, retreated to reddit, when you had the opportunity HERE to make a stand,and speak your piece, especially as a former CSM.

I sincerely urge you to return, if just to make one final statement on what you see as best for this formats changes.
You have hard-earned weight and gravitas. Apply it here, now. After that, go wherever you wish. o7

Go out with a bang, not like this.

The gloves are off, the field is flat, the rules are waved, here, now.
I am certain you care about this forum, and the community at large, and its future.

Don't waste this chance.

:S 5 of the top 10 threads are locked. Not looking promising at all.

edit: I guess those locked threads are because of inactivity. Still not promising, but at least it wasn't a moderation lock.

edit 2: Anyone else feel like discourse forums such as the valk forums are far less organized than traditional forums? No sections and subsections, just a huge pile of rando topics with vague category tags that don't really seem to mean anything. I'm starting to get the feeling that the new forums are going to be yet another case of CCP chasing trends long after they've stopped being relevant, while failing to understand why those trends showed up in the first place.

Mods Are Asleep..
Quick, post some ponies!

Not all ponies are a gankable offence, some are just plain adorable.*

*Not MLP, seriously it's not.

Question is do we need organized traditional forums?

Id' like everyone to stop actiing as if this is just an EVE thing, many communities made the move to reddit, no need to go over the reasons they've been well covered in this thread.
reddit has it's use, but each community should keep and use their forums.
people claim the very best place to get information in the last couple of years is on reddit but yet here you are,, just by chance seeking information about a product owned by CCP on their official forums, crazy stuff!

you're now looking for this information on 2 different sites, I think that's a bad thing.

I dont want mess, I want categorized content, easy to find.

I'm not sure how the changed forums will go, but they will have to give some power to posters.

Mainly because other sites give that power.

And if you cannot compete on that front, then you will not compete at all.

Fans that create a Reddit site for EVE can make it look how they want, they can moderate it how they like, they can build up an empire of staff if they so wish. And it seems that many players do like having the power to moderate others, which is dangerous if they only like the moderating part, but there are others that love to create how their site looks and works, and that's an energy worth having.

Forum moderation in either forums, new or old, is always prickly. I tend to think that moderators should be anonymous and paid staff. There are a variety of reasons why I think that way. The main one being that nobody does something for nothing.

Oh my, it's just getting better.

CCP is not just saving some money by moving from customized forum software to the GNU licensed abomination called Discourse, but also they plan to save DB server resources by not linking the forum account to your game account.

That is, you will have one character account, with no forums, and one forum account, with no characters linked to it.

It's so great. The obvious issues with that have been pointed by the CSM, but they can't be addressed; CCP will not link a Discourse-based cesspool with their pretty customer DBs, even if it was technically easy.

So enjoy the EVE forums while they last. Really, really enjoy them. Because now their future looks as pretty as EVE's.

OK, slash it all. What will be gone are per-character accounts, but forum accounts still will be based on a character name from the game account:

"The CSM asked how usernames would be determined, to which CCP replied that it would be set based on the first character you log into the forums with. Forum accounts would now no longer be based on characters, and instead would be account based. Players could have the option to change their forum username for a few days before it's locked."

So much for Reddt as the best place to get developer attention for non game-breaking posts. Feature and Idea suggestions are best placed in the official forums, even if it seems like they never happen. Agree that is a separate issue from "where the fun has gone" posts in this thread.