EVE General Discussion

There was indeed a significant fleet fight going on and many other systems shared the same node, which caused TiDi in all systems on this server node (without TiDi they would have been just lagged out).

About that TiDi.
Can you guys please make that ship computer say to us something like "Ships sensors discovered time flux anomaly generated by unknown source. Ship computer cant predict time variables in this conditions." when that system is under influence of TiDi so that all things don't just go slow... give it a story behind it so that ppl know that's not a bug.
And i every space stories there are some time anomalies so... its story vise actually nice thing...

and/or add some in space graphic that will show us some anomaly that cause that time anomaly...
That will be addition to game gameplay as well then...

TiDi would be useless in Jita since most of the people are docked in the station. How would tidi work there? Making it take longer to set up a contract or market order?

Edit: The fact that TiDi affects all the systems on the node is very annoying. Wouldn't it be possible to use virtualization be useful for this, using one virtual server for each solar system? Then again I guess performance would suck big time... Any plans to solve this though?

Not sure if TD have anything to do, however today the whole game is really unresponsive. Takes ages to install manufacturing jobs, clicking on the undock button, and for 10 seconds nothing happens.

The lag caused by TiDi to the rest of us not in the fleet fight or even in 0.0 where its going down is a bit annoying.

Trying to get your right click menu to respond so you can warp to a bm, or station can take 5-10 seconds to appear.

If running a mission guns/mods don't turn off until almost half way through another cycle after target is dead.

I understand why TiDi was introduced, I have been in lag fest fleet fights in the past. But myself I am not liking the effects of this new system on game play in empire space. I know I am not the only one that finds it annoying. Others I have talked with are pissed. This needs fixed asap it could cause lost subscriptions. Why should the majority percent have to pay for the few percent of logged in players to get their jollies in a fleet fight. JMHO

Let me guess. TiDi is the reason I can no longer right-click in open space (only on celestials) and cannot access my places in people in places. Kind of makes it hard to warp to a bookmark if I cannot access a menu which has them. This wouldn't be so bad if it wasnt for the fact that I am in a wormhole and can't go anywhere if I can't able to access my bookmarks >.<.
And I don't even want to think about trying to scan whilst this is going on.

Suffice to say that TiDi in a wormhole is HELL.
Please look into this.

They have one its just out of the way where it should be. Watch the Dev video.

CCP Veritas, how can we see that TD is active? Is there small circle on the corner like in your video?

Virtualization would compound the problem. Each node is almost certainly a separate process, making the server run a whole operating system for every one would increase resource use by a metric ton.


TD is a fantastic addition to the package of tools CCP can bring to bear against the lag issue. Theres really only a few things you can do about lag:

1: Optimize (see the changes to missiles and other efforts)
2: Reduce features (not very popular)
3: Slow things down / increase server cycle time, which is what TD is all about.
4: Increase resources (See server reinforcement / node migration)

The challenge with eve is that there are tens of thousands of systems, and no good way to predict where the resources will be needed. Clearly buying tens of thousands of jita quality servers is simply not an option. CCP has been trying to address this from all of the possible angles, and there IS more that can be done in all those areas, but TD is a major step forward.

Future efforts might include a way to "live migrate" a node to a beefy server, but things like that get really tricky to make work well.

So way to go CCP! Keep up the good work :)

This is simply not true. Before Tidi I had no lag issues while ratting or pve. Only now that they have put this in place do I notice the lag. And I am not the only one that has noticed.


As I stated in my last post. I understand the awfulness that is massive lag in a huge fleet battle. However I still do not understand how CCP can justify lagging out the majority of subscribers to benefit the minority of subscribers. Lets look deeper into this.

Lets make up some supposed numbers for the sake of argument.

It is now the weekend and say 45,000 subscribers are logged into EvE.

There is a tasty system PL wants to take from another very large alliance in null space. So between the 2 alliances fighting it out for sov, say 2,500 subscribers show up to fight.

Lets do some math.

2,500 subscribers is aprox %6 of subscribers online at time of massive battle.

That leaves the other %94 of subscribers cussing at their monitors because they have to suffer the Tidi so that %6 of online players can have a massive lag free fleet battle.

*note*

I realize that not all %94 of players not in the battle will suffer the Tidi but many will.


Basic logic dictates, The needs of the many out weigh the needs of the few.