Player Features and Ideas Discussion

As much as I see, people not just downvoting things about making the game slightly more friendly to those who don't want to do PVP, but they generally downvoting anything and everything that would change their current way of playing the game.

By the way PVP in EVE is like sex (with an awful amount of rapists...)

All I see are people "downvoting" a request for a magic bubble of safety. His ideas basically make it impossible for anyone to mess with his mission short of suicide ganking him, which he would naturally complain about next. I see no reason to remove mission invasions beyond "the mean people took muh damsel" and that's no reason at all. Why should he be safe from player intervention in his mission pocket?

Frankly you should be ashamed of yourself for implying a comparison between player vs player combat and ****. You consent to the potential destruction of your space pixels when you undock. If you have a problem with that, the test server is always online. You can PvE there unmolested to your heart's content.

Actually its more a case of this is an established and accepted mechanic....and career choice (looter/vulture is a career, same as say piracy) by even ccp. The old boards this was at one point in time running neck and neck with AFK cloak threads at times. CCP on record many times about this....falls under their HTFU guidance the long story made short.

I played in the old days. No can turnover, no crime watch, hell gankers had insurance. And there was something called agent quality so if like me and a heavy CN runner....you had to go to cesspits like Mostu was years ago (if changed I don't know...when quality removed I moved my ass away ASAP to quieter spaces). It had the one of the few top paying CN level 4 agents at the time. Want to talk about bad vulturing....motsu was text book worst case really.

Rule I applied then, same one I apply now. As mentioned....

I don't put a mission ship in jeopardy for crap loot in cans. MTU and such adds a new twist...same rule applies. even if popping these made them shootable...you wouldn't be advised to do it imo. Unless you can take the crap storm that follows. See its not the well they fit to kill you in the mission. They bait, you bite and they go we have a live one. This may not end in the deadspace that night. It could drag on.

Now I have known 0.0 types on empire alts run 1 man wars (official or hit and run stuff off the books as it were). They had the skills (and alt army to be honest) to do this. Have that, by all means feeling froggy, leap.

Me, I like avoidance. Off and on empire alts pay for combat's chars bills when out of empire. I don't need heat in empire. I make my isk, try to be a ghost in the machine and just do my thing. Works well...more than enough righteous rage bears rile up the crews looking for just that very thing.

You think its better to whine on the forums until the whole game is changed to YOUR current way of playing?

Or maybe you are just playing the wrong game.

My way to play quite flexible: I do what I want, when I want, be it mining, missions, exploring, events, PI, anything.
it's quite easy for me to adapt to changes. People with 5+ and so years of game time on the other hand usually have a style that they managed to perfect, changing that isn't easy.

So what? You think all the people disliking this idea are mission thieves and do nothing else?

Agents doesnt care how you aquire the item from mission, so I have a solution, steal it from someone else If someone stole from you.

Did you choose to log in to the client?

That's your choice to PvP right there.

As for the OP, as a mission bear I thumb my nose at you and call thee carebear.

You are aware that a) the ninja is looting wrecks, which you can't put anything into and b) you shooting the ninja is exactly what he wants?

I am not forgetting anything, perhaps you need to train dictionary to a higher level than you currently have it. To protect someone is to prevent any harm from coming to them, as in not being shot at and having their ships damaged or destroyed. If you were protecting someone then you would destroy the gankers or looters as soon as they appeared in the pocket. Problem is if you try this in high sec you end up with the distinct pleasure of watching from your pod as the gankers destroy your friend anyway all courtesy of Concord.

You and the rest of the PvP crowd can try and spin this which ever way you want, but in high sec there simply is no such thing as "protecting" your friends. You can retaliate once they have been attacked, and within a limited amount of time you can extract your revenge on them, but you cannot protect them.