Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Whatever else may come of this thread and the cargohold anti-scan bonus aside, we definitely don't need more interdiction nullified ships, especially ones that can haul around 10,000m3

Let me recap.
Cannot be scanned because cloaked most of the time.
Never in one place long enough to be scanned.

One has to ask why are we even discussing a bonus that is simply worthless in your opinion?

If you cannot scan because cloaked then the bonus has no affect on the situation so why does it bother you that these ships have it?

If they are never in one place long enough to be scanned, again why does it bother you that these ships have it?

You all think it is worthless, I disagree. Traffic control delay's and just plain bad luck on the Jita gates have put me at risk on more than a few occasions and there is no doubt that immunity to cargo scanning has been a part of why I have, at least to this point been able to avoid being ganked at those gates. There are after all a lot of gankers that will not roll the dice on a ship when they know nothing about what may or may not be in your cargo hold.

To be honest, maybe CCP was drunk ...and forgot to put it on the DEEP SPACE TRANSPORTs instead they gave it to the Blockade Runners. I mean, it really makes Zero Sense to have such a Bonus on a Blockade Runner, and it would make 100% Sense to put it on the DSTs.

i would support that change

[quote=Piugattuk]So now that others have chimed in here is something from an industrial player who has to haul stuff around, you people probably don't do the kind of jumping around many industrial or buyers, traders do, for me it's not unusual for at least 50+ jumps a day, from Gallente to Amarr, from Amarr to Minmatar and back to Caldari space only to jump back in again and do it again as buying sprees take a lot of checking regional markets.

Here's what you are missing, there are a lot of gate campers even in high sec waiting, watching, scanning every ship that comes through, a blockade runner is designed around getting through, it is NOT impossible to catch one but again people interested in ganking want easy street, the fact that it is immune to cargo scans make it the only Pollo (chicken), to have this ability in the same class of ships, why must every ship be available for scans...who are you? Caldari custom inspectors?

If your world revolves around ganking there should be some bonused ship that can be used to run past you and you have to decide...is it worth it?

I've seen the high sec camps at work, I've seen DST and other industrial ships ruins sitting at the gates from a fresh gank, just because YOU don't get around EVE doesn't mean others don't, if your livelihood depends on 10000 m3 worth of cargo you are a failure at ganking and being a criminal and should do something else if you can't take the risk necessary in order to throw the dice and gank a blockade runner....the name, BLOCKADE RUNNER!

every other in class industrial ship is scannable, so 99% of the in class ships are not immune, how flipping easy do you want it?

And unlike a DST it is not bonused for warp core strength, sheesh.

I love having this bonus. But, I'd trade it for the ability to fit a spectrum breaker to this class and DSTs. But some low volume hauls are very expensive hauls and the immunity offsets the overall lack of EHP etc.

But complaining about the risk/uncertainty in making targeting decisions seems... unEVEish. Given the current status quo, esp in high sec., it doesn't seem sporting that gankers need even more info / help?

A well flown blockade runner is impossible to stop in highsec so removing this bonus will result in no change in the numbers getting ganked. Frankly it should never be impossible to scan the cargo of any ship because all that happens is people running with empty holds end up getting randomly attacked.