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I do not advocate that players should be able to earn resources in total peace but there should be precautions that can be taken to keep you relatively safe, so that both aggressor and defender can be alert and engaged in the process, otherwise, it will be a one-way street. Why should I even bother farming crosses/rocks when farming players is a lot easier and far and away more rewarding?

Eve players have varying levels of concentration, alertness and skill and it will be up to the aggressor to take advantage of that. It's this that makes the hunt enjoyeable not arbitrary limits imposed by the game to make one side very vulnerable. Exhumers and barges still get destroyed by the doves in nullsec despite local and intel networks so why do we still need arbitrary limits imposed to make content?

This is going to be great. Panic modules, fleet boosts, up to 18.4k m3/minute. All great.
I'm hoping this will be the catalyst that gets my friend back into the game.

Use the Prospect, a cloaky mining frigate?

I'm assuming the ship hangar accepts Expedition Frigates [Prospect & Endurance]? Mining Frigates [Venture] were allowed in Retribution 1.1

that is one work around. should work fine. i forget about those lil things from time to time.

Between the existing fuel bay, cargo hold, and fleet hangar, I don't think I've ever thought to myself, 'boy, I sure could use a bigger fuel bay' on a rorqual. Either you're boosting locally, and you're full of all the heavy water you need for a while plus emergency isotopes, or you're crammed full of ridiculous amounts of isotopes for long trips.



Why not? You're placing arbitrary restrictions based on nothing more than your feelings. The rorqual was intended when created to lead mining opeartions, not cower in a pos as an afk gamepiece all day long. It absolutely should be a mining ship that can replace a barge, though ideally not at the cost of forcing every barge pilots gamestyle to be stomped down into mediocrity. At this point, I'm really optimistic, especially with the increased synergy between rorquals and mining barges.

when will the changes be on sisi

This is something I discovered through another feedback thread, which regards the Rorqual and docking in Astrahus stations. I will be posting this in both threads, as both are mutually exclusive, and should be read.

I strongly recommend, that the Rorqual be allowed to dock in the Astrahus. In addition, Rorquals, as they are not combat vessels, should be permitted to mine in High Sec space. Because the Rorqual is going through a rework, it is a perfect time to size the Rorqual to the approximate dimension of a Freighter, and since Freighters count as capital ships, and since they can dock in the Astrahus station, the Rorqual should as well. This is especially important, as Astrahus stations are known to be mining/refining stations, and it would severely hamper the Rorqual if it can't dock in a station that is designed to cater to it!

Thus, I'd like to see the Rorqual to be Freighter-sized, and capable of docking in the Astrahus, and undocking via its largest docking ports. Beyond that, I believe the new Rorqual is perfect.

THIS IS WAY OP.

7min invulnerably.
2000 dps
it has 10 au jump range
triage
HUGE drone bay becasue of the capital mining drone size so can fit soooo many drone waves.
it can keep lock and mine in panic mode.

Meaning it can keep lock and entosis in panic mode.

so basically this thing is a carrier with dps of a super and a EHE of 7min


OOOO and it can mine at the rate of 10 hulks.

Hi Jalxan! Nice running into you again!

Gotta disagree with you here though. The Rorqual is a Capital Ship in all the ways that matter while Freighters are the Orca are not.

The Rorqual:

• Requires the Capital Ships skill to fly
• Has Capital Ship EHP.
• Fits Capital Class modules including Capital RR.

Freighters, in comparison, do none of these things and are basically capitals in name only. CCP could move them off to their own hull class as "Freighters" and no one would notice.

The Rorqual also mines enough with these changes to strip a High Sec belt bare in a few hours and there's basically no way to gank it or otherwise stop it, and because of how mining profits work you can keep it in a newbie corp and war-dec proof permanently.

It would also make moving and owning these ships significantly less risky, since you just need to jump one onto a gate to High Sec and it can safely traverse to the other side of High Sec at that point.

IMO this is just too many negatives or things that would need to change to make letting the Rorqual enter High Sec a good idea. Letting it dock in Medium structures is a somewhat separate issue but one that will be largely solved when/if CCP fixes bumping of Tethered ships and allows Citadel storage to be accessed from space, since at that point you have a rough parity of functionality between the Tether and the POS Shield.

Because it needs to siege like a Dread to do that, they're still just drones which means a Carrier's Fighters will eat them alive, and if you're going to have to siege anyway you may as well just bring a Dread. Same or better range, no killable drones, cheaper hull, and comparable or better local tank.



Because a Dread can do 4k to sub-caps or ~10-12k to caps, and it's cheaper.



Because some quick eyeball math says the FAX is cheaper, reps better, is easier to fit, and tanks better than a Rorqual will even with these changes. The only advantage the Rorqual actually has that I can see is rep range and rep cap use. The rep range is questionably useful and the rep cap use is offset by the ~150-200k PG it's missing over a FAX.

Also a Rorqual can only support Shield fleets, so there's that.



PANIC doesn't affect other Rorquals, and the Rorqual still has the 5x Entosis modifier.

You could, potentially, Entosis using a Barge that's been PANIC'd, since it would have the normal 5-minute cycle time, but it wouldn't have any sort of ECM immunity and would be pretty easily jammed out unless you used a lot of remote ECCM, and at that point you've just dropped probably 3bil in assets on one node that you *probably* could have taken more effectively.

That's the only potential abuse I see here, Entosis on other mining ships combined with PANIC, but that's a pretty expensive trick and it's questionable if it'll work...