EVE General Discussion

Ban scamming full stop
Allow players to play their game not someone else's
More npc systems and more npc nullsec

Make missions more immersive and exciting they are soooo oo boring
Allow cockpit view
Risk vs reward is shocking bad. I can do a level 4 mission get a few measly million isk. I have to do 16 of these borinf things to get a tiny fraction of a faction standing increase. I was interested in FW but the time it will.take me to grind up standings wasn't worth it.

And the big one MAKE ANOTHER INSTANCE TO GIVE PLAYERS THE SAME OPPORTUNITIES THAN VETS. Yeso that's right eve is owned by all the vet players basically, moons Sov everything. Time to let others have some too. And please don't shout go fight for it BS. Every other mmo has more instances there is a reason for it.

Why isn't eve advertised? I haven't seen one TV ad ever .

Mining. Exhumers came out in 2005 CCP....2005! How the hell is there still nothing for miners to train for beyond exhumers? And before anyone says "blah blah Orca Roqual blah blah" those are not mining ships. I first signed up to EVE because I wanted to mine...2 months later you're at the end game for actually mining. I don't want to fly capital industrial ships, I don't want to downgrade to mining frigates...I want more lines of mining ships. Bigger...better...like combat ships. Instead you just keep re balancing the same small handful of ships constantly. I have no interest in other aspects of industry and I am sure plenty of other miners don't either...so what is there to do after you train up Exhumers? Nothing. Seems like a good way to bring in more people and bring some people back to start showing some much needed love to the supposed "backbone" of EVE. Nothing gets built if miners don't mine and now it's mostly a profession for bots which can drive new players away too when you see blatant bot mining going on all the time.
I'd just really love to see more mining ships, maybe new mining mechanics...certain ores/asteriods/gases/ice that can't be mined by the same ships. Variety.

And more PVE...or an overhaul to PVE in general like missioning. Been doing the same handful of missions for years. Need more variants...more than the basic 4 levels of missions? Make missions that require small fleets for corps to do together...doing level 4's with multiple people is boring. I know incursions are a thing but they are not that appealing to a lot of people especially when you try to join a fleet to do one and the community that does them regularly are a bunch of jerks who tell you to go to hell if you don't already know exactly what you're supposed to be doing and doing it perfectly.

I know the game is based around PVP, but even the pvpers do ratting...kill NPC's, mining to make money. I just think a much stronger PVE element would draw in more people.

And more lore based events.

Ways to fix your standings with other empires.

More character customization. I loved the original character portraits...they had a real sci fi feel to them. Now it's boring modern military style clothing and we all look the same.




Awful idea...EVE is one universe, it should stay one universe. Instances work in other games...but other games are not EVE Online. Hell I'd love it if we could just bring the Chinese over here too...all of us on the same server. Instances have no place in this game.

Adapt or die, CCP, adapt or die.

That's why eve will die by idiots like you who just won't get your dumb heads out of the sand. Hey ho. I forget eve is 'special' jesus what a ridiculously narrow minded thing to say. I mean hey eve has million of players right? It's kept in growing through the years right? I mean we are keeping new players subbing right? That's right eve is special it's obviously doing something right.. oh wait...

Serene, nothing you said here does anything to address my points or even the topic. Say what you want about me, I don't care, but it does nothing to refute, confirm, or otherwise address the arguments put forth. Serene, if all you can post is ad hominem and snarky rhetoric devoid of all intellectual nutrient, then we're left to assume that you have nothing left to argue with.

What you just wrote... it's meaningless. And you keep posting the same sort of rhetoric over and over, never actually addressing the arguments against you, just brushing them off with a character judgement of the person who posted them. Which is fine, you do you, but just to reiterate, what it tells people is that you have no counterpoint to what they're saying.


And Serene, don't try to turn what I've said into "you don't like change". I've never been against change. If that's your interpretation of what I've said, then I suggest you read it again. I love change, change for the better, the right kind of change that fits with the nature and flavour of EVE. I'm against dumbing the game down, more hand-holding, 'easy mode', and pandering to single-issue player bases. I'm for change that makes the game better as a whole. I'm against change that removes content or change that's good for one subset of the player base at the expense of another.

I shouldn't have to say any of that, but as long as you choose to continue being so intellectually dishonest, I guess I'll have to continue spelling out such very simple things.

The gift that keeps on giving.

That's really a common approach.
It kind of saddens me that there's so many who fall for it.

By definition the word universe implies there is a rich amount of lore that sets interaction up. In time Eve lore has become less and less signifiant, just a pretext for isk or kill farming. You might say lore is given by players but that sort of lore is most of the time a lesson about game mechanics enticing most of the students to timely spam the dscan, align or f1 buttons.

There's a considerable amount of players who like to roleplay their characters in a given setting and the only alternatives they get in eve is a mischevious "pirate", ruthless merc, greedy vacuum (pve site) cleaner or peaceful afk victim.

There are no surprising achivement to keep players imagination active, only the endless grind of trial and error rewarded with pretty much the same thing. One might chuckle associating the term political corectness to various mechanics available in the game while knowing how arbitray and devoid of meaning the notion is.

Outside of combat pvp encounters, of the consensual kind, there isn't much of the unpredictable element that might keep a player constantly running in anticipation of rare success. The only chanllenge comes from mastering evasive timed actions; not sure how many players consider it an achievemnt and how many only another chore.

The little information hinting at satisfying rewards a new player might discover comes mainly from veteran players biased by their preferences, interests or style of play, while the in game info mentioning fabulous richess translates into common if not vulgar treasures, like sleeper cache libraries for example, that are also the result grind.

With a learning curve and skill queue equivalent in length with a college degree and mastery any new player would and will seriously consider if their time, actively spent in front of the keyboard, is worth investment in a game where survival (because that's what Eve is about right?) means, for most veteran players, a generous stash of plex stored neatly in the safety of an npc station.

If it's taking you four years to figure out EVE, you are playing the wrong game, and might want to try starting with one of these.

Some ships, yes, but definitely not the majority so this is completely blown out of proportions.