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Trap for CODE: best tanked miner possible

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The Bigpuns
Touring New Eden
#41 - 2016-07-02 13:43:06 UTC  |  Edited by: The Bigpuns
Roenok Baalnorn wrote:
[quote=Darthon Zoh]
-snip-
makes me want to jump clone out of null and gank you myself just for lols.


Quoted for relevance. That is, if I was in null and not a pacifist carebear.

Op you are almost as moronic as code. Outsmarting code isn't even an issue, as nothing they do is smart, it's mindless miner ganking. It's not difficult, clever, profitable, or indeed anything worth worrying about. Saying you want to make it difficult and less profitable for them just shows that you don't understand even a tiny bit what they are about. If you want to beat them, jump in a pvp ship and hunt them. They can't handle an actual fight. Ref alliance tournament.
Darthon Zoh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#42 - 2016-07-02 21:58:50 UTC
The Bigpuns wrote:
Roenok Baalnorn wrote:
[quote=Darthon Zoh]
-snip-
makes me want to jump clone out of null and gank you myself just for lols.


Quoted for relevance. That is, if I was in null and not a pacifist carebear.

Op you are almost as moronic as code. Outsmarting code isn't even an issue, as nothing they do is smart, it's mindless miner ganking. It's not difficult, clever, profitable, or indeed anything worth worrying about. Saying you want to make it difficult and less profitable for them just shows that you don't understand even a tiny bit what they are about. If you want to beat them, jump in a pvp ship and hunt them. They can't handle an actual fight. Ref alliance tournament.



very interesting ship build. Unfortunately its the weakest posted here so far.
The Bigpuns
Touring New Eden
#43 - 2016-07-03 04:37:23 UTC
You've been given the right answer many times already, by people who know what they are talking about. No point to any more fittings being posted.

These same people have also tried pointing out to you that you are not on to a winning strategy. That what you are trying to do is pointless. That code doesn't care about profitability of ganks.

Please do tank your mining vessel. I have no sympathy for people who don't and then get blown up. But don't pretend like you're some Eve savant who has masterfully outwitted the witless. You're just yet another sour grapes victim.

Troll.
Darthon Zoh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#44 - 2016-07-03 13:03:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Darthon Zoh
The Bigpuns wrote:
You've been given the right answer many times already, by people who know what they are talking about. No point to any more fittings being posted.

These same people have also tried pointing out to you that you are not on to a winning strategy. That what you are trying to do is pointless. That code doesn't care about profitability of ganks.

Please do tank your mining vessel. I have no sympathy for people who don't and then get blown up. But don't pretend like you're some Eve savant who has masterfully outwitted the witless. You're just yet another sour grapes victim.

Troll.


Again, you try so hard to convince me that I'm losing that it only reinforces I'm on the right path to victory. And, because I don't mind pointing out how wrong you are on the one thing that is factually verifiable, I've never been touched by CODE or any other suicide ganker.; apparently don't need to be to see an opportunity to beat someone, or even a whole well funded corp, at their own game so your "sour grapes victim" theory, although cute, can be thrown out with the rest of what you said.
Dom Arkaral
Slavers Union
#45 - 2016-07-03 16:11:12 UTC
Welp folks,

Op is absolutely beyond help.
Time to pack your stuff and go give your very good advice to someone who will take it :)

Fly wrecklessly o7

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Darthon Zoh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#46 - 2016-07-03 17:35:42 UTC
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Welp folks,

Op is absolutely beyond help.
Time to pack your stuff and go give your very good advice to someone who will take it :)

Fly wrecklessly o7


I have to assume that posters like you don't really believe what you say and are just attempting to spread propaganda or troll because otherwise the only other option is that you do believe your own drivel and no one can really be that dumb.

To refocus the thread, once again, it is about ship fits guided by the original post. Since now most posters here have avoided the actual question, I'm beginning to think what has been offered so far has exhausted the ideas of the EVE general forum goer and that paints a very dismal picture for the EVE community's general ingenuity (and therefore its intelligence) and activity. But feel free to prove me more right, in all respects, by making more posts not oriented to ship fits. Mic drop.
The Bigpuns
Touring New Eden
#47 - 2016-07-03 20:23:30 UTC
Mic drop and walk off is a lot more effective when you actually go away. *fingers crossed*
Darthon Zoh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#48 - 2016-07-05 12:06:29 UTC
The Bigpuns wrote:
Mic drop and walk off is a lot more effective when you actually go away. *fingers crossed*


I don't think this ship fit will work.
Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
#49 - 2016-07-05 13:02:52 UTC
Well this entire thing is silly, but OK I'll play along:

Go with the rokh + depot idea.

Refit with full large smartbombs as code starts warping in (yes you'll need your safety on red and there may be some innocents caught in the crossfire)

nuke them all before they even have time to realize what is happening - get the pods too.

wait for concord if anybody else was near you.

?????

Profit?

The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool. They lay. They rotted. They turned Around occasionally. Bits of flesh dropped off them from Time to time. And sank into the pool's mire. They also smelt a great deal.

Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings (Sussex)

Roenok Baalnorn
Baalnorn Heavy Industries
#50 - 2016-07-05 13:10:29 UTC
Darthon Zoh wrote:
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Welp folks,

Op is absolutely beyond help.
Time to pack your stuff and go give your very good advice to someone who will take it :)

Fly wrecklessly o7


I have to assume that posters like you don't really believe what you say and are just attempting to spread propaganda or troll because otherwise the only other option is that you do believe your own drivel and no one can really be that dumb.

To refocus the thread, once again, it is about ship fits guided by the original post. Since now most posters here have avoided the actual question, I'm beginning to think what has been offered so far has exhausted the ideas of the EVE general forum goer and that paints a very dismal picture for the EVE community's general ingenuity (and therefore its intelligence) and activity. But feel free to prove me more right, in all respects, by making more posts not oriented to ship fits. Mic drop.


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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#51 - 2016-07-05 18:41:14 UTC
Sheeth Athonille wrote:
Bumblefck wrote:
Darthon Zoh wrote:

Also, please spell-out names instead of using acronyms.




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Darthon Zoh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#52 - 2016-07-05 19:32:40 UTC
Dirty Forum Alt wrote:
Well this entire thing is silly, but OK I'll play along:

Go with the rokh + depot idea.

Refit with full large smartbombs as code starts warping in (yes you'll need your safety on red and there may be some innocents caught in the crossfire)

nuke them all before they even have time to realize what is happening - get the pods too.

wait for concord if anybody else was near you.

?????

Profit?



This would likely cause concord to aggro to us as well and therefore reduce our insurance payout to zero, would it not? I considered and ECM burst build like this as well but it would also likely cause concord aggro. Keeping the isk costs down well below that of what CODE would be forced to used is key to be both able to claim victory and keep these efforts easily sustainable and the ship insurance is essential to that.
Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
#53 - 2016-07-05 20:01:28 UTC
Darthon Zoh wrote:
Dirty Forum Alt wrote:
Well this entire thing is silly, but OK I'll play along:

Go with the rokh + depot idea.

Refit with full large smartbombs as code starts warping in (yes you'll need your safety on red and there may be some innocents caught in the crossfire)

nuke them all before they even have time to realize what is happening - get the pods too.

wait for concord if anybody else was near you.

?????

Profit?



This would likely cause concord to aggro to us as well and therefore reduce our insurance payout to zero, would it not? I considered and ECM burst build like this as well but it would also likely cause concord aggro. Keeping the isk costs down well below that of what CODE would be forced to used is key to be both able to claim victory and keep these efforts easily sustainable and the ship insurance is essential to that.

Yes it would, as I said you'd likely have collateral damage, innocents in the crossfire, and concord coming down on you.

On the other hand you might just make some code gankers lose pods they didn't plan to lose - I've seen some pretty juicy ones =P

The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool. They lay. They rotted. They turned Around occasionally. Bits of flesh dropped off them from Time to time. And sank into the pool's mire. They also smelt a great deal.

Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings (Sussex)

Paranoid Loyd
#54 - 2016-07-05 21:20:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
Bumblefck wrote:
Sheeth Athonille wrote:
Bumblefck wrote:
Darthon Zoh wrote:

Also, please spell-out names instead of using acronyms.




YMBFJ


Big smileBig smileLol


You're My Boy Friend Joe?



You Must Be ******* Joking


Big smileOops

No, I don't think he was. Cool

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The Bigpuns
Touring New Eden
#55 - 2016-07-06 10:03:24 UTC
Dirty Forum Alt wrote:
Darthon Zoh wrote:
Dirty Forum Alt wrote:
Well this entire thing is silly, but OK I'll play along:

Go with the rokh + depot idea.

Refit with full large smartbombs as code starts warping in (yes you'll need your safety on red and there may be some innocents caught in the crossfire)

nuke them all before they even have time to realize what is happening - get the pods too.

wait for concord if anybody else was near you.

?????

Profit?



This would likely cause concord to aggro to us as well and therefore reduce our insurance payout to zero, would it not? I considered and ECM burst build like this as well but it would also likely cause concord aggro. Keeping the isk costs down well below that of what CODE would be forced to used is key to be both able to claim victory and keep these efforts easily sustainable and the ship insurance is essential to that.

Yes it would, as I said you'd likely have collateral damage, innocents in the crossfire, and concord coming down on you.

On the other hand you might just make some code gankers lose pods they didn't plan to lose - I've seen some pretty juicy ones =P


Can I just ask: is the intention of this to just sit in an asteroid belt doing nothing, on the off chance that code warp in and fly in range so you can discobomb them? If so, you definitely just failed Eve. And you've disappointed your parents.
Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
#56 - 2016-07-06 10:33:29 UTC
The Bigpuns wrote:
Can I just ask: is the intention of this to just sit in an asteroid belt doing nothing, on the off chance that code warp in and fly in range so you can discobomb them? If so, you definitely just failed Eve. And you've disappointed your parents.

Actually the OP's intention is to just sit in an asteroid belt doing nothing on the off chance that code warp in and kill him so he can brag that they lost more isk than he did in doing so...

So I think my suggestion was at least a mild improvement.

The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool. They lay. They rotted. They turned Around occasionally. Bits of flesh dropped off them from Time to time. And sank into the pool's mire. They also smelt a great deal.

Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings (Sussex)

The Bigpuns
Touring New Eden
#57 - 2016-07-06 10:56:29 UTC
Dirty Forum Alt wrote:
The Bigpuns wrote:
Can I just ask: is the intention of this to just sit in an asteroid belt doing nothing, on the off chance that code warp in and fly in range so you can discobomb them? If so, you definitely just failed Eve. And you've disappointed your parents.

Actually the OP's intention is to just sit in an asteroid belt doing nothing on the off chance that code warp in and kill him so he can brag that they lost more isk than he did in doing so...

So I think my suggestion was at least a mild improvement.


Sorry yes, the criticism was aimed at op, not at you. If the only thing he can see wrong with the plan is that it will cost him slightly more than it will cost code, then... I don't know what. I just don't know anymore.
Morgan Agrivar
Doomheim
#58 - 2016-07-06 11:39:27 UTC
I have a simple solution.

Don't mine.

*drops mic and walks away*
Darthon Zoh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#59 - 2016-07-06 13:12:01 UTC
The Bigpuns wrote:


Can I just ask: is the intention of this to just sit in an asteroid belt doing nothing, on the off chance that code warp in and fly in range so you can discobomb them? If so, you definitely just failed Eve. And you've disappointed your parents.


I'm sorry you have a hard time reading. Might I suggest signing back up for junior high? Seems like you're having trouble understanding EVE. There are much easier games out there that would give you a more gentle time (although not that many). Also the ship fit you suggested will not work.
Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
#60 - 2016-07-06 13:32:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Dirty Forum Alt
Darthon Zoh wrote:
The Bigpuns wrote:


Can I just ask: is the intention of this to just sit in an asteroid belt doing nothing, on the off chance that code warp in and fly in range so you can discobomb them? If so, you definitely just failed Eve. And you've disappointed your parents.


I'm sorry you have a hard time reading. Might I suggest signing back up for junior high? Seems like you're having trouble understanding EVE. There are much easier games out there that would give you a more gentle time (although not that many). Also the ship fit you suggested will not work.

[Megathron Federate Issue, CODE TARP]
Unit W-634's Modified Damage Control
Shaqil's Modified Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Shaqil's Modified Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Draclira's Modified Armor Explosive Hardener
Draclira's Modified Armor Kinetic Hardener
Imperial Navy 1600mm Steel Plates
Imperial Navy 1600mm Steel Plates
Imperial Navy 1600mm Steel Plates

Estamel's Modified Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Estamel's Modified Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Estamel's Modified Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Caldari Navy Large Shield Extender
Caldari Navy Large Shield Extender

'Wild' Miner I
'Wild' Miner I
'Wild' Miner I
'Wild' Miner I
'Wild' Miner I
'Wild' Miner I
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Large Trimark Armor Pump II
Large Trimark Armor Pump II
Large Trimark Armor Pump II

Wasp EC-900 x5



There you go. With maxed fleet boosts + high grade slaves and other tanking implants + overheating the defensive modules as you get attacked it has nearly 1.500.000 ehp - plus you can have some remote repair on standby for infinite sustained tank.

Granted it is a little pricey, but the modules are reasonably priced for the ship hull.

It also has the added advantage that no other ship shown so far has had - I can 100% guarantee CODE will mobilize fleets to attempt to gank this ship if you park it in an asteroid belt - along with every other suicide ganker in EVE.


edit: For RR may I recommend 3-5 officer fit etanas? Then they can be right there in the belt already cloaked up, and still rep you better than any other ship in EVE.

The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool. They lay. They rotted. They turned Around occasionally. Bits of flesh dropped off them from Time to time. And sank into the pool's mire. They also smelt a great deal.

Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings (Sussex)