Upcoming Feature and Change Feedback Center

Why not just make it so that citadels can't be anchored on grid with gates? Fix citadels, not bubbles which have worked fine for years

I support this change wholeheartedly

Cloaky dictor?

/devilsadvocate

Dude, can you even read?
If citadel is agressed -> then it becomes vulnerable.
That's what I have suggested.

Like this:

I had to repeat myself literally 3 times over one page. I feel so dirty. Is this place a reddit?

If nobody is there to man the guns the citadel poses no threat to you, it's just another drag bubble you should have avoided by burning yourself a ping or warping to a celestial in the first place while traveling through null.

But you tell me, why should you be able to make an unmanned, invulnerable citadel vulnerable? What would be the purpose of the invulnerability at all if you can force such a thing?

I see no problem with a citadel being used offensively outside of it's vulnerability timer becoming temporarily vulnerable. I'd honestly give it the same 1 minute weapons timer any player gets, the same one used to prevent tethering.



As far as the bubble changes go it's just simply a bad idea. And the idea of adding timers or allowing hostile entities to scoop someone else's bubbles are even worse. Literally ideas out of the mouths of those too lazy to realize they are in null and should know the proper ways to travel through hostile space does not include simply warping gate to gate.

And for you solo roamers. I have one thing to say to you. Get good. Travel the paths you wish to travel ahead of time in a ceptor if you must. It's always good to familiarize yourself with the lay of the land and set up pings where needed ahead of time. You'll find you'll catch more people off-guard if you appear in their system faster because you had previously set up a ping to bypass their drag bubbles. Or knew ahead of time to come in a nullified cyno ship to bypass their complete bubblefucking of a gate with friends on standby to jump in (that being outside of solo-roam category but you get what I'm saying I hope) .

Moral of that story is if you want your kills, do your due diligence and come prepared to hostile space! If you want to do off the cuff roams, don't complain when you get caught and killed by the locals and demand changes to support such a lazy playstyle.




EDIT- fixed the messed up quote I quoted.

I see no problem with this. These roles should be stricktly monitored anyway, not handed out to every pleb flying under your flag. If a corp/alliance wants to do that, then that's on them. And lets face it, it wouldn't be the first time something of value was lost due to a late night drunk roam *cough*

You know the risk averse way, way outnumber the survivors of nullsec hell. I have a better idea for CCP:

• Make a video demonstrating what scouting is
• Demonstrate what it looks like to get caught in a citadel bubble trap
• Every time someone whines about bubbles, refer them to the video above

Then those of us that understand risk, accept it, and counter it by playing smarter can carry on with our merry carebear-averse lives.

If bubbles were a "thing" in high-sec, I'd say go for it in high-sec. But you're talking about something almost solely in nullsec where it should be spooky to even jump from gate to gate.

I get it, though, a very sensitive group of people is having a rough go of it getting through certain space. They happen to be the loudest squeaky wheel. But this shouldn't be up for a vote.

Leave it alone.

I have removed a rant.

How is it unclear?
It is 1000km (well, more than likely it is 999 km, or somewhere in between those 2 figures, depending on rounding)
Saying it is 'unclear' and coming up with a 500km hard cap is obfuscating the fact that you have decided to nerf citadels with bubbles pulling people out of warp.

At least be honest and state your intention rather than using sophistry to give a 'reason' for a change