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Scammed, and not sure how.

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Rath Kelbore
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#21 - 2012-01-13 23:05:20 UTC
I understand that you're upset about losing your ship, but I suggest you just move on. You got scammed, it happens if you're not careful.

You can petition it but can you prove that the trade window said 95 million when you hit the accept button???? Probably not. It will just waste a gm's time to look at it.

It's just the way it is *shrug*. Eve isn't perfect but what else are you gonna play? World of Warcraft?

I plan on living forever.......so far, so good.
Zarcan
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#22 - 2012-01-13 23:07:22 UTC
Rath Kelbore wrote:
I understand that you're upset about losing your ship, but I suggest you just move on. You got scammed, it happens if you're not careful.

You can petition it but can you prove that the trade window said 95 million when you hit the accept button???? Probably not. It will just waste a gm's time to look at it.

It's just the way it is *shrug*. Eve isn't perfect but what else are you gonna play? World of Warcraft?


The fault of the decent into a state of tyranny rests on the shoulders of the apathetic.
Zarcan
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#23 - 2012-01-13 23:12:45 UTC
Marhaba > 0/
Zarcan > So I'm gonna go ahead and humbly request that you give me what's mine.
Marhaba > what, like a wardec? Gladly
Zarcan > How about that Dominix? You know, that one that represents 1/2 of my capital in EVE
Marhaba > i've already sold it. [Contract for 65mil]
Zarcan > Well then surely you've got the money to reinburse me.

...
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#24 - 2012-01-13 23:15:46 UTC
Zarcan wrote:
The fault of the decent into a state of tyranny rests on the shoulders of the apathetic.

…except that scamming is explicitly and purposefully allowed by the game designers. Its existence has nothing to do with apathy.
Zarcan
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#25 - 2012-01-13 23:18:22 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Zarcan wrote:
The fault of the decent into a state of tyranny rests on the shoulders of the apathetic.

…except that scamming is explicitly and purposefully allowed by the game designers. Its existence has nothing to do with apathy.





... and why the hell would we as a playerbase tolerate that?
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#26 - 2012-01-13 23:20:36 UTC
Zarcan wrote:
... and why the hell would we as a playerbase tolerate that?
Because it's no different than someone violencing your boat: it's the game we play.
Elessa Enaka
Doomheim
#27 - 2012-01-13 23:20:56 UTC
Zarcan wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Zarcan wrote:
The fault of the decent into a state of tyranny rests on the shoulders of the apathetic.

…except that scamming is explicitly and purposefully allowed by the game designers. Its existence has nothing to do with apathy.





... and why the hell would we as a playerbase tolerate that?


Because the playerbase in eve are in large majority sociopaths who get off on perpetrating this sort of thing or hearing others cry when it happens to them.

Sad but true...

Devour to survive, so it is, so it's always been Eve is a great game if you can get past all of the asshats....
Morganta
The Greater Goon
#28 - 2012-01-13 23:25:41 UTC
Zarcan wrote:
Rath Kelbore wrote:
I understand that you're upset about losing your ship, but I suggest you just move on. You got scammed, it happens if you're not careful.

You can petition it but can you prove that the trade window said 95 million when you hit the accept button???? Probably not. It will just waste a gm's time to look at it.

It's just the way it is *shrug*. Eve isn't perfect but what else are you gonna play? World of Warcraft?


The fault of the decent into a state of tyranny rests on the shoulders of the apathetic.


then I suggest you buy a ticket to fanfest and punch Hilmar
Mekki Muvila
Petrichor Acquisitions and Industry Development
#29 - 2012-01-13 23:30:38 UTC
Your Domi fit sucks anyway
Zarcan
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#30 - 2012-01-13 23:33:21 UTC
Mekki Muvila wrote:
Your Domi fit sucks anyway


The Guristas disagree.
DarkAegix
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2012-01-13 23:36:26 UTC
There should probably be a final, confirmation window which appears for both parties after accept is clicked. It shows the proposed transaction, which cannot be modified. Both parties need to click accept again, or else reject.
Rakshasa Taisab
Sane Industries Inc.
#32 - 2012-01-13 23:46:57 UTC
DarkAegix wrote:
There should probably be a final, confirmation window which appears for both parties after accept is clicked. It shows the proposed transaction, which cannot be modified. Both parties need to click accept again, or else reject.

Also known as a 'contract'.

Nyan
Selinate
#33 - 2012-01-13 23:50:32 UTC
Morganta wrote:


if you haven't been bankrupt by a scam or gank at least once, you haven't been playing EVE
They wont admit it, but everyone here has had it happen in some form or another at least once


Confirming towards the beginning of this character's birth, I got scammed for 400 mil through a courier contract.

Haven't been scammed since if memory serves right...
Zarcan
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#34 - 2012-01-13 23:56:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Zarcan
I think that CCP just wants the extra $15 a month.

Oh, wait, scammers make so much ISK that they just plex.

Hmmmmm. Obviously a completely equitable situation here.
Mekki Muvila
Petrichor Acquisitions and Industry Development
#35 - 2012-01-14 00:00:16 UTC
Zarcan wrote:
Mekki Muvila wrote:
Your Domi fit sucks anyway


The Guristas disagree.


The Guristas are ********.

You combine buffer and active tanks, you use a mag stab on a ship where your DPS comes from drones.... it doesn't take much to make a Domi invincible in L4s, but it takes some intelligence to fit it properly. No wonder you're so broke for such an old player, it takes you ages to do the simplest of L4s, and its mind numbingly boring to do it.
Zarcan
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#36 - 2012-01-14 00:05:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Zarcan
Mekki Muvila wrote:
Zarcan wrote:
Mekki Muvila wrote:
Your Domi fit sucks anyway


The Guristas disagree.


The Guristas are ********.

You combine buffer and active tanks, you use a mag stab on a ship where your DPS comes from drones.... it doesn't take much to make a Domi invincible in L4s, but it takes some intelligence to fit it properly. No wonder you're so broke for such an old player, it takes you ages to do the simplest of L4s, and its mind numbingly boring to do it.


Oh save your crap. My dominix was a great combination of HP, repair quantity and resistances along with combined rail and drone damage.

If you think I give two craps about your opinion of my ship, consider; I had enough intelligence to not allow you to scam me out of 300mil, so, kindly go hide in your corner of your basement you sociopath.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#37 - 2012-01-14 00:07:37 UTC
Zarcan wrote:
I think that CCP just wants the extra $15 a month.

Oh, wait, scammers make so much ISK that they just plex.
So CCP earns $17.50 a month from them.
Hijeri
Interstellar Manufacturing of Gravity Aided Yields
#38 - 2012-01-14 00:09:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Hijeri
Zarcan wrote:
Mekki Muvila wrote:
Your Domi fit sucks anyway


The Guristas disagree.


You think being able to kill rats enables you to judge whether a fit is good or not? That's freaking hilarious coming from someone like you, who's played this game for years. I can hop into an armor drake and do L4's. Just saying. I see ratters rat with the most stupid fits every day.

You'll do good staying in high sec for the rest of your life. Have fun with your mission running, basically the most boring thing you can do in this game along with mining. This is an MMO sandbox, and then you go and voluntarily grind your ass off doing the most mundane thing, as if you're playing World of Warcraft. Hilarious.
Montevius Williams
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#39 - 2012-01-14 00:10:36 UTC
Zleon Leigh wrote:
Another example of how scammers get off without consequences... he'll never leave the station, never have sec status where you could even put a bounty on him (even though that is a totally f'd up mechanic as well)



You know, you bring up a very good point

People always talk about EVE in terms of

"Risk vs Reward"

Where is the risk for scammer?

Can someone give a legimate reason as to why there is a risk for a scammer selling Carbon to someone who thinks its a Charon? Cause if there is no LEGITIMATE risk, this game activity needs to be put in line with all the other activities of EVE that require risk.

"The American Government indoctrination system known as public education has been relentlessly churning out socialists for over 20 years". - TravisWB
Zarcan
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#40 - 2012-01-14 00:11:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Zarcan
Hijeri wrote:
Zarcan wrote:
Mekki Muvila wrote:
Your Domi fit sucks anyway


The Guristas disagree.


You think being able to kill rats enables you to judge whether a fit is good or not? That's freaking hilarious coming from someone like you, who's played this game for years. I can hop into an armor drake and do L4's. Just saying. I see ratters rat with the most stupid fits every day.

You'll do good staying in high sec, running missions all day.


Teach me your ways, wise computer game master!


Montevius Williams wrote:
Zleon Leigh wrote:
Another example of how scammers get off without consequences... he'll never leave the station, never have sec status where you could even put a bounty on him (even though that is a totally f'd up mechanic as well)



You know, you bring up a very good point

People always talk about EVE in terms of

"Risk vs Reward"

Where is the risk for scammer?

Can someone give a legimate reason as to why there is a risk for a scammer selling Carbon to someone who thinks its a Charon? Cause if there is no LEGITIMATE risk, this game activity needs to be put in line with all the other activities of EVE that require risk.


The risk, indeed, should be CCP catching them and banning them.