EVE General Discussion

Nah, it's ok. I'm just being a bit antagonistic.

These forums have no personality. It's not allowed and no wonder most of the community has moved to /r/eve, tweetfleet slack and twitter. You can't discuss anything in here without the heavy hand of a random moderator kicking in. It's strange that in a forum where everyone is already a member of the game that encourages conflict, everything here is kept so sterile and lifeless.

So my bad. Was just being an ass to spice up the place a bit. It's why I also respect Dracvlad and Lucas. They bite so easily. It at least adds a touch of fun to an otherwise boring place.

Red surely just provided my bored ass with some content.
Thumbs up to the squad of four that gave me what I was really looking for... someone to shoot at.
Granted, there were four of them so the outcome was pretty much a foregone conclusion, but it's the ride more than the destination sometimes.
They numbered three and I less than one when it was all said and done.
I'd do it again, and probably will.

When folks talk about unmanning the content creators, everyone immediately goes apeshit about ganking. Unfortunately that's not the only form of content that's fallen on hard times. It's friday night here and I should by all rights either be out picking up loose women or hunting war targets... sadly, hunting war targets is no longer a tenable activity due to the 'buddy list' change. So instead I found myself with little better to do than suspect bait until I found ANY kind of fight.

I found one. It wasn't winnable, but it was a fight, and that's what I wanted.

I guess my point is that my playstyle has been crippled to the point of verging upon obsoletion because of 'free intel' in another sector of space that I could give half of one sixteenth of a rat's ass about. Bitter? Kinda. Unemployed now.

TL:DR? RvB is good, however I should not have to resort to them if I want a fight in high sec without ganking or becoming a hub camping bottom feeder.

This.

It's my perception that the intention is to 'nudge' people out of highsec and into other parts of space by whatever means. Higher yields, better loot, more mechanics and options and generally dumbing-down highsec into more vanilla pudding.
And not everybody likes vanilla.

It really means, what has always been true, that you have to adapt. What has worked before may not be viable any longer and you have to try something else. There is always something going on in this game. It is up to you to find it or make it happen.

I ran my very first L4 mission today. OMG...

Start going through each nerf and detail its impact, I will read it, problem for you is I have played Eve for a long time, so I know a lot of past changes and their effects, do you want to go down that path because I will enjoy it. I will also detail all the mechanics used by Gankers that enable them to get around consequences, bumping was not the only one... Come on I dare you.

Now your comment on the DCU, yes that was a buff on all ships to take into account the change of the DCU into a passive module which I like because in PvP neuts are too powerful in shutting off tank, the nerf to ganking is as a result of the impact it had on freighters. That requires how many more pilots exactly, shall I tell you?

Another one, the removal of the watch list, many big fights got blocked by people noting the other side logging on their cap pilots en masse, the watch list change occured because of that, the impact was on hunter killer mercs in high sec, WH players who cannot see if the person logged or not, and people doing PvE in a system with a cloaky camper who now cannot see the BLOP's pilots logging on.

You would cry that they are all nerfs to ganking and they are, but they were not applied to nerf ganking, the bumping one was adjusted because it was a poor mechanic, though I think CCP will have it re-set so anyone with a brain and a suicide pointer can get around it.

I am not interested at all in the counting of such adjustments but their affect to game balance which is objective, like many I am concerned about the impact on hunter killer Mercs, but no one is concerned about people who PvE in space with a multiple of cloaky campers.

I tried to explain it without being insulting, but I think you are just one of these people crying over things, I have had to take nerf after nerf to my gameplay, some areas I stopped doing because it was no longer worth it, I made my point and moved on, perhaps you should do the same instead of counting changes and doing a tally board, it is just so weak...

EDIT: EHP, there was another EHP change, a number of AG players including one I know well who deserves a lot of credit started blowing up freighter wrecks before they could be looted, as you might know all wrecks had the same low EHP. It was very very successful, some of the explosions on comms by Loyalanon were epic. CCP changed this and increased the wreck EHP, the players concerned saw it as correct balance and were like yeah pity but I will accept that as it was silly as it was, now compare that attitude to yours on the DCU and bumping changes.

I'm laughing at the whole check your route comment.

Where I am now it's around 16 jumps to Jita, to avoid Uedema and ass hats like you it's closer to 60+ jumps.

Keep the tears flowing :) content my arse.

EVE is designed as a group experience. While there are activities that you easliy can do solo, you still need to watch out for groups interfering with your gameplay and those groups obviously have an advantage then. Doing EVE completely solo is doing it the hardcore way.

Though CCP could still do a better job at communicating this. While basically everything on the CCP websites says mutliplayer, there is no obvious hint for new players, that you will be at a distinct disadvantage without a group, when it comes to a lot of content ingame.

There are changes on both sides though, people just choose to pretend they never happened as it suits them. Take for example the bumping changes that have people up in arms. It used to be the case that if you were bumped you could just log off and 15 minutes later you'd be safe. That was removed allowing people to be kept in space until downtime if need be until gankers could be bothered to mount a fleet. All these changes are doing is retuning it to a time where gankers need to be well prepared rather than saying "oh that dude's had someone bumped for two hours, now we have enough online to execute the gank".

At the end of the day though it wouldn't surprise me if CCP wanted to try to encourage other forms of content, as no matter what badly analysed stats they come up with shows, people don't like starting a game, playing for a few weeks then losing everything to a mechanic they didn't know existed used by a multi-year veteran who gains nothing from doing it. I fully expect ganking to be a more challenging set of mechanics to use.

They are missing the mark by a rather large margin.

They have already removed profitable barge piracy and jetcan theft. The nerfs to piracy in highsec are never ending while the safety and reward only ever goes up.

Racist? How so?

Me right now.