Player Features and Ideas Discussion

This, some people don't have the balls to shoot something that definitely will shoot back...Jeez.

I just don;t see the benefit of it. Just make freighters warp slower in Niarja if the idea is to just make the game as boring as possible for freighters pilots or remove the ability to post orders in Amarr if the idea is to kill off that trade hub. That's all the change would effectively do. It wouldn't create content as it wouldn't be an option for most people shipping stuff, so they'd simply be paying more for the same trips.

It's not something they frequently do and there has to be a good reason to do it beyond "this could be interesting". Amarr wouldn't die off completely, but it would lose it's position as second biggest trade hub and rapidly deplete in number of players as somewhere else would gain population. I imagine Dodixie would grow into the second largest hub and other than shifting a bunch of players about much would continue as ever it did.

I think you're thinking of this a bit backwards. I don't think Jita would be even remotely affected by a change like this. Nothing in Jita relies on the proximity of Amarr, rather the population of Amarr space relies on it's proximity to Jita. If that were cut off and it were now a 30 jump trip, it would just mean those people would move to other regions 8 jumps out of Jita.

Andrew Space CSM 11, also lets ban all minmatar from empire space until we can sort this mess out.



You are almost certainly correct. Though deep down I wish Amarr could stand on its own. When I was in a larger wormhole group, I know we sourced a lot from Amarr because wormholes are often open closer to Amarr than Jita, but anything really expensive or bulk would of course come from jita. Everyone else however likely does not care about proximity to Amarr, really only Jita matters.

I wonder if an Index based tax like what was introduced for Industry/Science in Crius would benefit the mission running crowd. You know, high mission taxes in areas where more missions are being done. I know a lot of people don't really care to talk about mission running, but a sizeable portion of the EVE playerbase 9-5's missions in highsec space.

Every state is an empire. To say other wise denies sovereignty over one's self.

It does not make sense that it is only 0.5 sec status either.

It is the only route connecting the 2 empires. They are allies. And it a huge trade route. The empires should be looking to increase the security on such an important trade route. Especially when so many ships get blown up there.

Different things:

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(1) There is too much ridiculous ganking in Highsec.
Symptoms: Even nearly empty freighters and jump freighters are ganked for the lools. The level of cost effective ganking covers maybe 70%? of the current hauls.

Reasons: Ganking is too cheap and because this problem had no care for so long time, the funds of the gank alliances are full from the ganks so far.

Cure: Make ganking more expensive that it make sense for precious freighters who did not took care in splitting the haul. Drop it to 10% of the current hauls.

This can be done by faster concord, higher basis tank of the freighter, more fitting opportunities etc. But please do not think three low slots with ridicilous fitting capabilities were the solution!

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(2) Jita is dominating the trade market.
Symptoms:
You can get everything there.
There is no margin in trading local content between the trade hubs. One would think that Matarstuff is cheaper in Hek/Rens and other way around.
The other tradehubs just have only a larger gap between buy and sell as an expression of the lower relevance as trade hub.

Reasons:
But there isnt a real relevant region specific stuff
Everyone ships his stuff to Jita.

Cure:
Provide local content specific for a region or change participation of the main elements, such as minerals etc. It would encourage trading.

Make trading more difficult but shorter.
There is no game content in jumping 25 jumps in Highsec.
Let it be 10 Jumps but with a few lowsec inbetween. But as a network of routes not as a pipe like rancer, so that it makes camping not too easy.
Give relevant more High to High wormholes with freighter capability to encourage scanning and rewarding efforts.
Make trading between hubs more necessary and beneficial.

But tbh, that would be tremendous changes, so I doubt its feasible.

So when did CCP state that it was their design intent to make Jita/Amarr/Dodixie/Rens/Hek the main trade hubs? Have you ever thought that this would simply cause the Amarr trade hub to move so it wouldn't take 45 jumps to trade?

before you cut off Amarr from Jita CCP must upgrade Amarr space to a Caldari level. This include Khanid and Ammatar regions also. Today Amarr space mostly empty.

All this would do is kill the last real market outside of jita