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As directed by CCP Darwin/CCP Support twitter posting feed back here in hopes the UI team will comment

Original Reported thread >> Tab Not rolling windows

Since January's patch (maybe even back into December) the minimize function of the double tap tab feature no longer works (I'm sure it can be rebound, but....)

Adding in my notes from the original thread for visibilty to the UI team. As it appears this feature was removed with out communication (correct me if I'm mistaken).

Tweet from customer service team

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For a lot of people that was actually a useful feature... Can it still be bound to something or is the roll up just completely gone?

Q: What as the ratio of people confused vs. those users who found it useful functionality?

Couldn't you have put in some kinda prompt (I hear that new opportunity system is good for giving feedback) like a pop up regardless of aura's state for notifications in game?
The pop up box could activate the first time or persist until someone clicks on an acknowledgement they've read/understand the text when someone accidentially clicked tab twice. Just needs to give basics to say what happened, why and how to restore..

Pretty sure once someone sees the prompt (unless this just X out of everything instantly) will understand and move on.

Hell, future idea.... make one of those new flight academy videos have a pro-tip UI type of video just going over some little nice features that players might not know about? *purely spit-balling here* Go over useful UI tweaks so new bros understand some of the complexity of the UI, what it can do and how it can be tweaked to make the eve experience better, rather then killing something we use cause a few people accidentally mis-clicked tab and complained? I can't ever recall seeing someone post about a problem with the function... so why remove it?

Q: Was this even a discussed change in a patch note, forum thread (aside from the one opened after the change) or other? I don't follow every CCP twitter account (let alone actively monitor twitter daily) so maybe I missed it, but in reality first time i knew there something amiss was when I came here after looking for an explanation as to where the function went.

It was nice to be able to quickly roll down everything to get a full view of whats going on and returning it normal state. You've had that feature for as long as (and probably longer) then I've been playing.. it was removed with out any real notification. Pretty sure I didn't see it in a patch note but I could be mistaken.

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If we can get some kinda comment on why you're removing a feature due to what I'm sure is a small percentage of player base (most likely new trial accounts) and not taking into consideration that the function had a purpose for older players who have used this for years (it's been in since long before I started playing I'm sure)

CCP UI team - Please comment/consider revision of your change.. Yes I know its a small function, but really we did use it...

/rant - for now

I have rambled a lot in this thread - not my usual behaviour - but now it´s time to say "Thank you CCP Turtlepower" for doing what should be done. :)
I am looking forward to be able to use the new camera since it has some really nice features.

Thanks for listening. I promise in return to give he new camera another try.

Please, please !

Remove that annoying background sound on the tactical camera .. what the hell is this for anyway beside being a pain to our ears ? And remove it also from the ship tree where you're at it..

This too. Same for the first-person camera. Or give them their own, UNIQUE sliders in the audio menu. They hurt my ears but given the way you guys have designed the selective audio volume sliders, there's really no way of knowing where you've put a given set of audio cues or effects. Half the time they're in sets where they frankly don't belong, like ambience stuff being in the UI slider.

That's... not okay. Nor does it make sense.

Tracking camera only appears to work when you click on the overview, not on actual objects in space.

I want to express my thanks for delaying the roll-out until the behavior of both camera/scanner can be base-lined/normalized to the current abilities of the legacy system.

Going forward though....PLEASE look at getting the minimum standard of performance equal to legacy as a default....and then allow us end-users to add functionality as desired.

For example....I don't care about gee whiz effects, making movies, and screen shots. Let those that care about such enable and build from the default.

As another pilot mentioned I will be happy to re-visit the new when it reaches the minimum of functioning properly as the legacy systems already do.

And finally....if the POS towers and Citadels can co-exist for the length of time required to figure out the end-state of change-over....surely the ability to keep the legacy camera/scanner is trivial in comparison.

Thanks for listening

Bone

p.s. IF...as I have heard rumored...this whole camera/scanner business is meant to be some sort of stealth nerf to non-lazy pilots who know how to dscan/track with camera/probe......may I suggest removing local as THE overpowered stupid intel tool within the game .

In WH space nobody hears you scream until it's too late. Share the fun with nullsec

[quote=Xercodo]Simple list here:


- Bring back the ability to use right click to pivot the camera on its own axis and do extreme zooming when using the orbit camera (Sorry for the really old vid but you get the idea :D)


This is exactly what I meant, sorry If I explained it appallingly, and nice to see someone else that wants view movement in first person mode.

Thank you for adding toggle for camera tracking, and for improving dscan. Trying out the new camera today, again. Sometimes the movements seem odd and I want to counter them with my mouse to get a better view. One example was going into warp just now, the camera slid forward in front of my ship, so the ship wasn't even on the screen anymore. I zoomed back, of course. The overall experience seems to be improving, though.

I posted this days ago in the upcoming feature thread on this topic, and apparently the reason I didn't get any response from anyone was because I was supposed to post in the dev blog thread. My bad.



Has this been discussed already?