Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I guess if that's your thing. I just have a hard time relating. For me, the gate camp is impeding me from doing what I want to be doing with my limited game time.

If today I want to hit a wormhole with a battleship solo, which already isn't exactly a quick endeavor, I have to make it even longer in order to not explode on the way there.

*shrug*

Besides, how to get through a gate camp is already basically a solved problem. Covops, MWD/Cloak trick, quick-align interceptor, MWD/MJD/Cloak on your travel fit battleship, etc. ECM burst for good measure.

It's not "let's see if I can solve this problem." It's "let's throw on my packaged solution and see if the dice roll my way this time."

Thus... Satisfaction level (personally): low. Hassle level: high. And judging by how many players ***** about gate camps, it'd take some doing to convince me I'm in the minority there.

At the risk of repeating myself; that is the idea.

You have the freedom to do what you want for any reason you desire.
The "other guy" also has the freedom to do what they want for any reason they desire.

Neither of you are entitled to "success" or to "doing what you want to be doing." That must earned by investing your time and ISK to make it happen.
That is the "rat race" that is EVE.


*pissssst* ... get friends. It makes EVERYTHING easier.


And yes... there are groups out there who accept "weekend warriors." As long as you don't join a null-sec corporation, most corporations and player groups can be quite accommodating.


Two things;

- very few mechanics in this game are a "dice roll" unless you let them become this way (see: you don't manage the variables or "what if's"). Those exceptions are; ECM, ECM-like modules, asteroid belt faction rat spawning, loot drops, salvaging, player-held lotteries, and EOH-poker.
Other than that, everything in this game can be be more or guesstimated and thought around if you use some creativity and show a little patience (which is the idea... hardheadedness, foolhardiness, and impatience come with some deep risks (if not outright penalties) in this game).

- even if you have made the best preparations, have the best equipment, use the best tactics, have the best intel, fly with the most experienced people... there will ALWAYS be that chance where you hear a toilet flush in the background and find yourself, much to your amazement, that you are being drug backwards and are swirling down the drain.
It happens. And it happens because there is a human factor here. And because of that, EVE as a game will guarantee you nothing.



Everyone bitches about gatecamps the same way they ***** about price spikes on the market, bad loot drops, getting ganked by vastly superior forces, farmers devaluing an item they used to procure, people avoiding them when they are looking for a fight... the list goes on.

*humanproblems*

You're missing the point

The tools to find you already exist - and the chances are, if used , it would be an equally lopsided ambush - but it is a completely separate issue to gatecamping - because the two week old toon running missions is not worth scanning down but the two week old toon, who is an alt, may well be worth attacking in a gatecamp - as they may well be carrying valuable cargo to the main character - or a spy - or whatever

If you were to suggest there be a some sort of newsfeed that reports kills in neighbouring systems, so as to allow the player to make an informed decision as to whether or not to jump....

I'd appreciate the offer if it didn't end with the sarcasm. As I've said over and over, gate camps are my only beef in this game. Also said on page one, wormholes are my favorite bit.

I've actually been tempted, repeatedly, to join a WH corp and move to one. The only reason I haven't is, still being new, I'm constantly running to a market hub for 2 parts I forgot or just decided to try. Or to build the battleship (or whatever is next) I just finished the skills for. Living in a WH would make that a lot more challenging than living 6 hops from a hub.

And my experience in corps has been less than compelling. Gate camps might be a time suck, but fleets? Hoo boy, spending an hour and a half getting to the fight only to find it ended before we got there and then have 30 jumps to get back home?

Not that they're all that way, I'm sure, but my first five or six fleets had such a low signal-to-noise ratio that corp life isn't exactly blowing my doors off.

I have a small idea to add.

Anchorable guns to anchor at gate camps(or anywhere). With a painter in which you can paint whomever you want it to destroy. And it also responds to hostiles and they turn red.

You track down campers and strategically paint them and when the gun sees them it shoots them.

Make gate camps more complex and fun.

You don't know Yige's rep in CCP forum pirate.

Did someone wake up on the wrong side of the bed this morning?

It's all "musician assumption".

I remember reading a gate campers bio saying the Militia is worse than the deadliest red corporation in New Eden. Gate campers don't have it made, you know.

Haha, oh ****, you're gonna hate this game.