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A late reply but when AUR was introduced the community had severe reservations on where the use of Aurum may lead...Golden Ammo? From there CCP told us that AUR would be used for cosmetic areas of the game that do not affect in game mechanics other than viusal elements, so no game winning material from AUR.

Now it seems that this new , system is aimed at one thing, trying to lure extra cash out of inpatient kids who want to fly the biggest ships as fast as possible and at the same time CCP make extra money. Well let me tell you something CCP:

The time investment into this game and its uniques real time training is part of the attraction of this game. When you train for many months to get to an ingame goal it feels good, it is what keeps the loyal and patient people in this game.

What will happen with this system is it will kill Eve very quickly, why? Simple:

1) Veterans that get nothing from this system will become bitter and resent the fact that new bros don't have to go through an 'apprenticeship'.

) New players will be tempted to inject SP and skip amny lower levels of the game. This will havh a number secondary of affects:

a) Lower level ships, small & T1, will be skipped by new bros. All that ship rebalancing and good work will mean nothing.
b) New bros will train fast, get to the big ships quick then get bored.......there is no challange in this type of game play. There is no substitute for 'earning the right' to do something in game than real time invested
c) Training implants - there will be a negative affect on th use of training implants why use them when you can just buy SP.

3) The simple and unforgivable fact is this: AUR for Skillpoints = Skillpoints for Cash

Skillpoint for Cash = Pay to Win

The idea of a better vessel or tool/mechanic for the character bizzar is certainly worth an investment and overhaul.



CCP : The real currency in Eve is time. Time is what makes Skillpoints, time is what makes isk, time is our investment. Please don't ruin this game by devalueing our investment.

2016 will be a critical year of gambling for CCP i forsee. Capital changes and these proposed SP changes will be the make or break of this game. Tread carefully or this will be know as the Skillpoint for Cash Scandal

They are figuring:

- plausible denial of some opposing arguments
- ways to ignore some opposing arguments
- fine tuning based on favorable arguments
- fine tuning based on some opposing arguments

The idea is going to go through. CCP wants extra money from EVE and they just can't get it from extra subscriptions because of circunstances spanning since 5 or more years ago. Also CCP still isn't ready to go free to play since they know it's a last resort and the game would become financially unsustainable after it, so they will try a few other things before that.

Sadly, none of the things they will try will be in the line of improving the game and thus retention of the highsec solo PvE herd. They simply don't have the resources to do that AND implement the Hallelujah plan.

1st 20ish pages - CCP got bored checking

Looking through it all again its all governed by one single bloated item, The Plex.
The wealthy in game or real life have the best of it being in position to have it farm-able for profit, best attributes for max returns on their investment - forcing players which cannot hit optimum skill point generation to either take a hit or not bother in it.

Then CCP can step in at anytime and either flood the market or curb the flow of Plex which also controls the price of the packets, with its base price being set by it, so this player driven market isn't so player driven when it can be manipulated from on high.

Then you got the poor schmuck's who either try to plex there main or a second account are really going to struggle if the plex continue's to rise.

So many drawback's for a quick fix. I'd have to agree with Tau Phoenix here, i hope it's worth the gamble.

What's the point of even trying to have a discussion and or debate on this when CCP are not interacting with the community on it? How many pages back was the last reply from CCP, do they even care about what the community thinks on this? Or are they going to roll this out regardless of what the communities thoughts are?

Wait 2 win. I prefer Do something to win.

But one of the core tenets of EVE is the player driver economy... so why not make time a tradable commodity? We can already trade game-time in monthly chunks. We can already trade time in ISK. We can already trade time in full-character chunks. What is the issue with trading time in 500k SP chunks?

Yep... doing something to > wait to > pay something to ... get a fun gameplay

Let´s skip the features designed for the pay and waiting part and head to / develop the good things instead.
All of us are already paying to do be able to do / play ;)

This will be the start of teh end and CCP would not stop there. This current system means to syphon off SP from a players SP but it is not a like for like exchange. The seller can decide what SP to sell and where to take them from, the buyer can redistribute the SP as they see fit.

This is not healthy for the game in any way. It is not like a char is selling Battleship lvl5 and the buyer purchasing Batteship lvl5 as there is no tie here. Even if you were selling skillpoints that can only be injected to the attriburte they were originally trained for i still think this is a bad idea.

I hear some people saying that with this mechanic i can sell off any unanted SP becasue they may no longer use those particuler skill attributes. All this will do is players will use this mechanic to make 'pure' focused chars. Well, if you made a decision to train a skill at some point then you made that decision and it should not be able to be undone.

I also see another problem, what happens if a player tried to sell SP for a skill that they no longer use but th eskill is a pre-requestite for a skill they do use? Would CCP like to comment here? Would that char still be able to fly a T2 cruiser is the prerequisit SP werr sold/removed from th e char?

Remapping SP for AUR/PLEX is a much better idea than SP-harvesting.
Edit. no, on further thought it's not