Wormholes

The last build broke it. No way to move probes from inside the new map.

hotkey for d-scan.

No one, and i mean absolutely no one, would abuse that with a key macro. Nope. No way at all would your Hulks and mackinaws auto warp if your d-scan or probe scan showed any change. Nosiree Bob.

Greenlight that change, Fozzie.

I have solar system map resized window open now and Im using the probe scan window. the DSCAN sphere is still showing. I do have both DSCAN and the Probe Scanner windows tabbed together the same as I do on tranquility. So even though DSCAN is not my 'active' tab maybe the game interprets it as being open.

My point is that with the DSCAN sphere and unscanned red sigs spheres both on screen it can get confusing which is which.

Perhaps another colour for the DSCAN sphere and does it really need a fill when in 360 degree scan mode ? The fill is distracting as alot of people will have that resizable solar system map open all the time now, tucked into a corner.. its distracting to see out of the corner of your eye a large red sphere moving as you traverse the solar system

Also..

You really don't need the giant "no scan result' letters when no sig is found. Less UI is better UI. Careful in the rush to improve the dscan/probe interfaces ur not adding more ui or bigger ui for the sake of it. The previous scan window small and unobtrusive 'no scan result' lettering was fine.

Same point with the extra colour you guys have added to the horizontal bars in the new scan and probe windows. Its not necessary and just distracts from the beauty of space.

Assuming I understand what you're saying, there are several instances you would want signatures separate from the map.

If you are in a wormhole system (or really any system), having that open allows you to monitor the opening and collapsing of wormholes.

If you are doing exploration, it is useful as you jump system to system to be able to quickly see if there are any signatures there or, if not, you can just move on quickly.

If you aren't using probes but just looking for anomalies, you can still use this interface without worrying about the probe window.

Thanks for unlocking the probe scanner window and making the solar system fullscreen.

The drag to resize is missing. Why do I have to press modifier keys like alt and ctrl to move or rescale my probes?

Can you give the move arrows priority over symbols on the map? They get in the way for me.

The focus camera movement is very very fast.

I'm not very happy with the changes, doesn't feel like you're changing anything really. Just looks a bit different.

You can now use ur mouse scroll wheel to resize probes. So your hand is still free for 'other' things.

OK I think I get it now, thanks :)

RE: Map window - enough people felt strongly enough about the windows not being joined together (size concerns, mainly) that we decided to pull them apart. This change has been well enough received that we are likely going to stick with it.

Good point about the hotkey though - will discuss this with Colgate (likely solution off the top of my head - make that hotkey bindable and not only work when the window is active.

"Keep using the old scanner" won't be an indefinite solution - once we are happy with how this interface behaves and looks, the old system will be retired. If you can explain a little more why you have issues with a key modified system beyond "not a good idea", I would be happy to hear your concerns though.

Yes, the lines. It's just decoration at least for me. When scanning internal planets, UI tends to clutter.

Thanks for the reply!
I have noticed a lot of people seem to prefer having separate windows, so I guess whatever works is fine, I'm just stating my own preference.

Also a quick and dirty solution that comes to my mind for the map crickets is to refresh the groupings on button release rather than every frame, but that's likely to be me using a handaxe to cut a cupcake.

RE: Orbit lines.
I'll throw in my two cents. They are indeed mostly decoration, but can serve to orient yourself sometimes, as well. The main problem is that with the old map, when you tilted the camera into the ecliptical plane to dscan a moon, the orbit line often ended up in your face, ie: pointing straight at the camera, so I guess that's where the request comes from. Maybe you could dim them when the camera is nearby?

RE: Controls for one-handed-scanning. Have you looked into mouse button combinations? For example, click and hold anywhere on the map to start rotating the view, as usual, then tap the secondary mouse button to initiate probe resize. Release all buttons to reset this sequence. Middle mouse button click to center on the cursor (or a celestial under it). This is similar to how some CAD programs work, CATIA in particular, and while it may sound complex at first, it seems just natural after the first thirty minutes.