EVE General Discussion

Was not aware of it . Now I know. thx

But how are you going to see full action deployment invasion when you blue ball everyone, pay off people to go away and are not willing to deploy yourself to look for content? Thats another one of your coalition cause and effect. Dont blame eve or CCP for it. Beside we are the only game in towm in the north at the momment.
CCP wants to encourate small warfare. Fozzy sov does that. If it did not, you will not be here complaining. This does not mean that the large battle wont happen, but if you keep blue balling, its your coalition fault only.

It's kind of hard to blueball when there's nothing even remotely credible as a threat for 50 jumps. I think the word you were looking for is blobbing. You guys keep getting your buzzwords mixed up.

These are common themes I see over and over again.
I will probably update this as more come.

I dont want to spend the day running after entosis ships! Owning sov/ihubs/stations is too tredious!
This is null sec. Its meant to be very dangerous. If you want to own something,
you got to protect it. If you cant protect its very likelly you are either out
gunned or have over extended your territories and do not have sufficient backup in the area.
Move into the area and defend and its very unlikelly it will get entosied or consolidate dont over extend your territories.

New sov does not encourages big battles! New sov is borring!
The sov is a small help to encourage small gang warfare instead of a big slugfest.
Quit blue balling everyone you find. Set your neightbours to neut and let the slug fest begin
Deploy to an enemy territory, put a pos and attack them. Dont blame CCP or new sov for your wrong doing.
Dont wait for the fun come to you. If you are an entity that pays off enemies to go away, stop doing it
if you want more action.

New entosing is like like mining! I want to shoot structures not entosis them!
While it may look like a mining lasor I dont see it that way.
I actually see it like a lasor. It has exact same mechanics. It get reinforced and needs
to be defended when comes out of reinforcement and blows up at the end just like in previous sov.

"Troll ceptor" entosis!
What you call a troll ceptor is a genuine to me attempt to attack and herass an enemy.
They are easy to defend against. A frigate with entosis cant warp away and has to orbit at
25km. Really easy to kill. A cruiser with tech 2 entosis cant warp away. Also easy to kill and catch with a ceptor.
You can also disrupt their entosis easelly with a dampener or ECM.
If you find your systems are getting entosied a lot, its cos they its very likelly you have over extended your territory
and have many empty or unoccupied. If it not, it would not get entosied.
If its empty and you are not living in it, its fair game and should be allowed to get entosied.
If you want to counter this, them move to the system. Easy fix.
If you have over extended, the drop sov in some of the regions and consolidate your power in less regions.
This will effectivelly prevent others from entosing.
Otherwise get renters or allies to occupy the systems and maybe they can help with the system defence.

Cant catch a "Troll ceptor" nullified!
Very easy to catch, get a fast ship lock ship like a keres and fill it with sebos and a point.
Trust me, it works. For the really hard ones, you can compensate with implants, faction sebos and or a booster.

CCP did not provide the tool with new sov!
True. CCP need to provide ways to see who attack, where, system status etc in game rather than offgame.
I would also like for it to allow still to be visible off game as not all of us can always have
a client at that momment.

Entosis should only be allowed in Battleships! Entosis ship should do 0 m/s speed!
You are over thinking it. Battleships need a buff in targetting, damage and tanking.
Battleships a middle layer between marauders and the current battleship.
The whole concept of entosis and battleship is contradictory.
Entosis ship should not do 0 metres per second cos its not a disposable cyno ship.
Its a very expensive module and the ship cannot warp. Its only chance is to try to out run you.
And as all things go, you should not be able to catch everythign you happen to see. Currently in the mecanics there is plenty of chance.

Bombers should be nerfed!
A properly fit carrier will need aproximatelly 30+ bombers to kill within 2 minutes.
Thats a lot of people to kill one carrier.
You can improve the tank even with a triage or have a cyno module for call for backup.
Also you can use links or even a booster to tank better.
Bombers are weak and easy to kill. Any frigate can kill a bomber easy.

EDIT
I moved out cos we spend all the time upgrading index via ratting or mining!
I dont want to be rude but there is no other way to say it. People are ratting and mining to make isk and not to increase the timers. You dont need that much effort to keep or increase the timers. If you really want to do that you can form a 100 man fleet and do it in two days to almost maxed out from almost zero. People are doing it for isk. To maintain an index level, you actually need very little activity. There are about 10 CFC renters in pure blind and they have max 5 people at a time in a system. They have kept the index up. If those renters can do it with 5 people surelly anyone can. Unless you are doing it wrong or the system is been constantly reinforced. Which has nothing to do with index level but more the inability to protect a system.

MFW when it's 2015 and this rule still exists.

Why? The person doing so has no desire to actually take the space or the structure. They're merely abusing the extremely low bar for the attacker that CCP has set.

Sounds like trolling to me.

So, I ask you this. Why should anyone without a desire to actually commit to an attack be allowed to do so in the first place?




It happens whether you were living in it or not. It literally doesn't matter, because you still have to go play whack a mole with interceptors one way or the other.

Nevermind that, in doing so, you are forced to devote a great deal of your time per day chasing those broken ships. And, I should point out, that while you're doing so, you aren't living in your space either, or doing anything with your space. You're either babysitting every structure in your entire alliance, or chasing down the most broken hulls in the game.

So Whack-a-mole sov really is more accurate than occupancy

When it happens in space you are living in, you still have to chase down the interceptor. You still have to waste your time chasing a pilot designed for evasion who has no intention of taking the sov.

Simply put, if you have no intention of taking the sov and refuse to commit enough to actually take the sov, then attacking it should mean nothing. It's much like how if I go to an online POS and start shooting it with a frigate I'm not going to be able to take it down whether the owner intervenes or not. This should be the same. If you don't want to commit a realistic amount to contest sov, you shouldn't need to be considered a threat.

Lets take it one step at a time:

Icycle, would you have a problem if the Entosis links were costed at 1 billion isk?

I am going to repeat myself. FozzySov is meant to give a small bonus to smaller entities to be able to face a larger one. Its only a very small plus. You still got to get it to reinforce it, which is hard or destroy it after reinforced which is very hard to do if you are small and fighting the larger entity. So in my book unless you pull an ace, the smaller entity will find it very hard to do so. This is bad news for some blue balling and vast of empty and unused space. I think CCP should have done this ages ago!

Why should you get to keep space you dont use? Why should not be allowed to be contested? Why should we not destroy this blue ball? All of these are stopping and making null boring. Its time to inject some dynamics into the game, not the passive system we had in the past. Its null, and its meant to be chaotic in the front lines. The front lines should move back and forth and note remain the same.