EVE General Discussion

The majority of your post history disagrees.

And yes, by the way, nerfing incursions would fix anoms and a bunch of other things besides, because income, and purchasing power thereby, are relative.

And like every game ever made you need it to be balanced well. If the safest area of space provides the best income why would anyone go to the more dangerous areas that require more effort, investment and risk?

Maybe because they want to PVP with less effort, investment, and risk.

Absolutely disagree that a fun and engaging aspect of highsec pve should even be considered to be removed from the game. Also, this is one of the few highsec activities that not only encourages but actually requires you to group up with others to accomplish and CCP loves that.

Let me say first off before my next comment: I am and always have been 100% highsec carebear and proudly so. I have fought adamantly against the normally poor treatment we receive from CCP with regards to our chosen area of game play, especially with regards to protecting our income.

As i mentioned in another post the term 'moderate' should ring true when discussing incomes in highsec. Not low as it is for highsec PI nor as high as it is for incursions or FW. Incursions and FW should payout more than running L4s but not as much more as they currently do.

Lets get to balancing this income situation as soon as possible.

Oh come on it's like you guys don't even care about reality anymore.

11 catas easily takes out boosters and faction fit battleships. There's been a few incursion related ganks lately proving that. Then again those people aren't being lazy and poopooing on the forums they are actually out there doing it. Hell I could do it on my own but it's not worth my time to go to highsec.

Think hitting taking out a HQ fleet's boosters midsite won't cause some issues?



You need ONE carrier one dreadnaught and a couple other ships. Bammo +800m an hour with less effort than incursions.

You could in theory do it without the carrier but it'd require a lot more effort.

Since when is molon labe not principal around here? it is a complete and utter lie to decry that there is no risk is because players decline to bring it. It's player driven content, but some around here only know how to steer into barges or freighters.



https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1698538#post1698538

Working as intended.

This is a good thread.

I approve the premise and the potential resolution.

The "if you can't beat them, join them" logic is always a flawed argument.

Otherwise we would all be flying with Baltec1 or (insert other giant Alliances here).

Another way to put it:
You don't end greed by being more greedy than the other guy.

Confirming drifters should regularly show up in incursions and doomsday carebear loot piniata's. This would be an acceptable risk offset to how incursions are simply being farmed right now. Truly, why bother going to null when all that delicious ISK is just waiting for you to hop into an incursion channel in hisec...

Nerf incursions.

That is all.

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I believe this happens because of whining on the forums. While only a minority actually post, I bet a lot more lurk for valuable information. When people start clamoring about how x, y, and z is imbalanced, lurkers will usually be the first to try it out because they're here looking for valuable information that will get them ahead. Similarly to how I will be engaging drifters differently because of valuable information I have learned very recently. It's a lot like when piracy wasn't all that a big deal. The more press releases all these companies and regulation agencies made about piracy, the more popular it got. It's now to the point people in law enforcement agencies don't even view it as a big deal. I personally never have as well.

When it comes to Eve, I believe people bring up issues like this to purposely get people more involved so that CCP can take action which will have a positive net result for themselves. The markets will never get out of balance due to incursions because of the soft caps that are already in place. Never mind the fact the markets have already stabilized with the introduction of incursions. When you have uneducated people doing something that yields more profit, they're going to stick to what they know works. The grand majority of people, day in and day out, do the same things that yield them a personal satisfactory profit. They never critically think to themselves in such a way that would allow them to make even more profit because they are either content, which is a by product of ignorance sometimes, or because they are incapable.

I personally believe, this entire topic stinks with that kind of agenda. Talk about it enough to get the followers to hop on it and stick with it. But it will fail in the end because of the soft caps. What would happen instead is the income would get redistributed into different hands if everyone jumped in on it. I also believe, over time, if the competition got out of control it would resolve itself because of the soft caps and how income potential is diminished if you have too many players. More players also doesn't necessarily mean faster completion times outweighing efficient, proper sized fleets. Usually more people = more poop happens because of an innumerable amount of confounding variables at play due to so many people there with a preconceived idea of how things ought to be when they go apply themselves to the situation at hand.

At the end of the day, there are ways to stop something you don't like in this game. "Just do it!"