EVE General Discussion

It's not Jenn who is spining(?) here.

The devblog and the thread in F&I are fairly clear. It is way to early to be quoting anything as something that will be delivered.

Direct quote from the devblog:



And even with the total grain of salt that the concepts need to be regarded with at the moment, even the G. that you point to only indicates a possibility to "change NPC agent spread across a solar system". It doesn't say anything about introducing NPC agents into solar systems where they don't already exist.

So if there is any spin being put on that, it's not coming from Jenn.

Show me where I have moaned about anything of the sort?

No spin, just a direct quote.

I personally have no concern at all about how others earn their ISK or how much they can earn. Good luck to anyone that can play how they want in the game. I just do what I do and allow others to do what they do.

So find me a quote that differs from that.


Not that I have seen anywhere. Nowhere has it been mentioned about introducing NPC agents into null that I have read.

changing the NPC agent distribution in a solar system is mentioned together with "to switch NPC faction control or NPC security forces", which are clearly not null related, so there is no reason to conclude the first relates to null.

It more likely suggests these structures will be able to be built in other places - lowsec and highsec.

Yes, but this is largely countered by both the safety for one, and perhaps even more importantly, the availability and logistical ease. You can almost always get to an incursion in High, and there will almost always be one up - it is dependable, available income. Null Incursions, when they are even run, have to be in the right spot, and don't last that long due to any sane alliance wanting them down so their systems aren't cyno jammed. The moment the mothership is spotted, it is usually run at first convenience. It is not unusual for incursions to last less than a day when they hit a populated sov area. Hi Sec has a bigger pool of incursions, and the time to farm them for the full week. Imagine if you could only run incursions in say, Kor-Azor, and then only for a day...oh and during that day, you light up the constellation so every hot-dropper in the tri-region area starts hunting.

Also, comparing Hi-Sec incursions to Null ones still doesn't do too much to the fact that the available, dependable income Hi-Sec incursions grant Hi-Sec makes life in elsewhere comparatively unrewarding. We could discuss the merits of Hi/Low/Null incursions versus each other, but its a different topic entirely than, should they be in Hi-Sec in their current form at all?

Not only has the price of everything doubled before we take into account mineral requirement changes but inflation means that the value of running anoms has gone down due to the way the payouts are handled. Bounty based rewards do not rise with inflation while LP based rewards do. This is why we now find level 3 missions are on par with anom ratting.

That is the primary pve activity in sov space. Glad you are finally realising the problem


Thats the problem, we already are going to highsec and abandoning null.



Everything costs a lot more than it used to while peoples income via bounties has not changed. Belt ratting went from good isk to worthless. Nobody rats in belts anymore which shows that inflation does have a negative impact on the game.

Rubbish, level 3's are not anywhere near anoms even with LP, what a lie that is!

And you're done, thanks for playing.

There are no level 4s in sov null.

my carrier was around 2.7bil and got me 90mil an hour in nullsec using 1 account in an upgraded system, ishtar was pushing around 60mil an hour

maybe, then, we should introduce Sov currencies. Amarrian Kyat, Caldari Ruble, Gallente Dollar, Minmatar Rupee. That would b a very interesting development and expansion for the game. Corporations would choose to adopt one currency or other, or a mix, and individuals can choose which currency to buy with from the selection provided by their corp (muhc like how you select which Corp Wallet to buy with).

How to set the rates? Easy ... treat each currency like you do any other market item. Imagine 'trit' was a currency. There are buy orders and sell orders. Initially it'll be a flat playing field. Then, due to occupation and useage as currencies can only be used (in empire) in their original factions, the price will vary as differeing amounts of trade happen in different places. I'd imagine the caldari Ruble would soon become highly used and far more valuable. Bufs' to the lowly minmatar ruppe would be via intriducing something only fpund in Minmatar space ... maybe each race has one each of mex/iso/nox (with two having only nox). that way all mex trade would come out of Minmatar, potentially giving some stability overall.

Probably lots of holes in that, just writing as I think, but sure a brainstroming session could eaxily come up with a working idea. Would certainly add a lot of market risk. It might also reduce people having big cash stocks, as only 'hard items' would be a surity against a currency crash.

anyway ... off to lunch ... nom nom nom.