Crime & Punishment

I like how, in one breath, you claim that ganking is too easy and the game mechanics favor PvP players, while admitting in the other that killing freighters at any decent scale is only possible these days with the backing of one of the biggest groups in the entire ******* game.

And of course, you don't think there is anything inconsistent about that, either. That's the best part, how freaking blind you are.

Well that is one area of ganking, we have two catalysts ganking mining ships, we have Vexors ganking Industrials and we have a couple of Tornados ganking deep space transports, they are not Goons, and they make ISK.

Then at the freighter level the sheer numbers killed by the Goon group is enabled by the amount of resources that Goons put in, certain people make a lot of ISK doing it, in fact during the initial period of hyperdunking Siggy made an absolute killing, but that dried up as hyperdunking is easy to stop, I stopped quite a few myself and they largely gave up on that due to the vigelence of the AG group.

You have no idea sarge...

You mean, the fact that Tippia spelled out in black and white how easy it was to beat, to emphasize that anyone who died to it was a veritable ******? Meanwhile, if I recall, you AG guys were bawling about how it should be banned.

I worked out how to beat it myself and was fun to do so., as for the freighters who get caught, we can all facepalm at them, but the objective for me is to keep industry and key markets in hisec, so there you go. I happen to use a twin faction web fitted loki, but then again taht may be something to do with me being able to work such things out...

Not me, in fact I was welcoming the content, I got some great kills because of it, my only issue was using it to take out of offline POS mods without a war dec, but there is of course some benefits to that, go and read my posts in that thread sarge.

This just simply isn't true. When balance comes, high sec will still be high sec. The overarching theme of it will be safety, since that's what highsec is.

The thing is, you guys might kick and scream about all the nerfs, but the reality is that it's still as easy as it ever was to aggress someone in highsec. How that's done might have changed and the balance between type of aggression may have but it's just as easy and obviously popular. I think you'll be very disappointed when they do get around to balancing highsec if you've got yourself psyched up for drastic changes like the complete removal of concord.

Touché. That's exactly what I posted. As you can quite clearly read in this quote.

personally I feel high sec merc corps in their current form need to die. That said they would be replaced by suicide mercs and war Dec assistance mercs. You can read my in depth thoughts on how in a few hours time when I can type it on a computer keyboard

Adapt or die, boohoohoo and HTFU were the first things that came to mind.

TLDR.

Indeed, you all have good points.
I like the vampire guy's opinion best, his opinion is more right than other people's opinion.

I would propose we nerf Oracles and Nagas because they hate industrial players.

D.

We all fail, but the fun is to try, its those that don't try who truly fail...

From the Echo Chamber, an excellent post by someone who is able to post his views and is passionate, he seems to be quite thoughtful too, which is why I often read his posts:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5687128#post5687128

One thing you get a feel for is the issue of size, it is evident as a long time reader of C&P that the Merc's are riven by ego clashes, this means that as hisec opens up to more and more outside interference such as 0.0 entities moving on POCO's they cannot compete, Marmite tried and failed when Goons moved in, but its a long term game and I have not kept track of the POCO's around Jita recently.

Tora for example wants to bring dreadnoughts to hisec and in a way I agree with him, however this gets very messy in terms of those 0.0 entities which will just blow hisec away. Another issue where balance gets in the way of more flexibility. Lets say people in hisec get together and create their own station hub, this hub is supported by multiple corps and alliances and had a market only allowed to blues (CCP listen to that part please.) A merc outfit like Marmite war dec's them and finds a metric ton of people coming in as allies, Marmite fails.

The Goons war dec them and bring in their fleets and demolish it because they can, hisec entities try to gather enough to fight but fail, but good fights are had in some areas, learning from that lesson they create multiple such stations and switch betrween them as needed, all owned by different corps. Lots of fun and games methinks, as I said the only issue is whether there are left any real entities that can put something like that together in hisec.