EVE General Discussion

Sure. Why not? It's how it has been since, oh, 2005 or so. And so what if it does? Just because it takes a bit of time does not mean that new players are incapable of making a difference.


…and that is exactly why it can happen, now as ever: because it is, was, and always will be about the people. Mechanics do not change how the groups work, and the groups are what make things happen. The “impossible to beat” groups are utterly minute — the only thing that keeps them on top is that the rest don't organise to insta-beat them.

So? They will still make a difference. Why is independence even relevant to the issue?

Sure I was. I just rejected your flawed premise.

Eh, somewhat. If Low Sec and NPC null had more accessible income so new groups could settle in them and enjoy small gang fights and whatnot, the game's ecosystem would be far healthier. The emphasis is going to be where new players can set up and have fun easily, and if big blocks give them ships and a flag to fight for, they are naturally going to shift or keep the emphasis on null.

As always, the solution to so many things is to buff NPC null and low.

I think something that is on topic was nuked.

The NPC stations to bank ISK, the worm holes to print ISK, Low Sec or Worm Holes to make capitals are all still there. The huge pool of players (70%+) are still there in High Sec.

It is in peoples' heads that they can't go out and conquer space.
CCP can not code a fix for that.

What will save the shrinking sandbox will be a HBO and the Eve of Thrones a space game of thrones version. lets see if AAA Valkyrie will attract more new players its a gamble due you must purchase a VR Headset.This might stop from losing subscribers if they connect this to our present player GameBase is interesting I might say.I see some from the major alliances and corps jumping on this bandwagon.However we shall see i would rather see new empires emerge than the same old just adapting to CCPs changes. however Im aligning to creating real eve contacts in Las vegas perhaps to bring something fresh to the table The Crendravens and maybe some other clans for the sake of new content we shall see.
http://www.engadget.com/2015/04/01/eve-valkyrie-vr-interview-preview/

They live because nobody bothered to crush them. Having an arrangement with your enemy to have them not contest the final timer as long as you show up to be farmed every other timers is not "getting there"...

The problem is, Sov nulsec is becoming fun for less and less (groups of) players.
The only sure road to successfully living in sov nul is via one of the giant coalitions (as a member or aligned to) and as you said, not everyone wants to be just another number in fleet who is told what to fly and when. (Ishtars online has had its day and needs to go the way of Drakes online)

Sov space is unbalanced simply because so much space is controlled by large coalitions. The coming changes will do nothing to change that, CCP have no intention of changing that situation. The goal here is to look as though valid change can occur, whilst making as little as possible actual change. The bloks will no longer need to "hold" space to control it, a few entosis links ensures only those "allowed" to take sov in blok controlled space ever will.

Mini games to control sov will keep players interested for about as long as it takes to house train a puppy.
Back room agreements like those we see now will become even more essential to any group not aligned to one of the bloks.

Yes the Empire builders want content in sov nul (can't keep an idle empire from imploding for long) BUT they want it on their terms and that is exactly what CCP has handed them. A means to control Sov nul without having to pay sov bills on systems they never use.
New groups, big or small, may move to nulsec and plant flags but those flags will only remain as long as their nearest blok neighbour allows it.

With the new sov system revolving around multiple fleets engaging in different locations at the same time, the large groups have the win handed to them. The ONLY additional benefit to this style of fighting is to CCP themselves as it reduces server load on the nodes being contested.
Or does it? The large groups are still going to field fleets as large as they can to 1; Get the job done faster, 2; Involve more of their (bored and idle) line members, 3; Ensure the mini game goes in their favour.
Will the servers handle (without TIDI) 4 or 5 1,000 player engagements in one constellation simultaneously. I don't think CCP is Naïve enough to believe simply because something can be done with minimum numbers that it will happen that way.

CCP wants everyone to play as part of a group, be part of something bigger than oneself. All well and good for those who have no real identity and are happy to play their game as someone else dictates.
For Eve as a whole to grow and continue to compete in an ever growing market, devs need to stop making the game look pretty and concentrate on creating content for the bored masses. Visually the game is great but visual effects aren't why the majority login.

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Jenshae; Yes they can. People have it in their heads because the game mechanics allow super groups to control so much space with sheer numbers. That is something CCP could fix by coding. A few tweaks to the way space is taken or held and the whole game changes along with peoples "heads" (perceptions on taking space).

Major blocks and allies have already started transforming in regard of june sov change. We already have a big picture of what would happen so you are free to develop plans a,b,c and so how it goes.

Would it be surprise if one day you would know that Brave was only well planned creature of GSF? And it's not a surprise why they were at Catch and where they are going to next. Just a thought. And lychton is nothing else other than playing ceo online.

"Mighty" nc.dot probably lost it chance to catch the last train and jump on it. To be a landlord much more easier than an effective war block. They could be a same good as both legions but things turned different ways. Darkeshi has no balls of steel to manage a big piece of the pie.

N3 fail by it's nature.

And i will ignore "Test" cause it's test.

So i hope that ruski block could bring up some fresh content and will see how fast smaller dukes would try their teeth at nuli.

In the most general way I can think of putting it, the risk/reward has to be continued to be balanced. We don't station spin because there is little to do, but because there is nothing WORTH doing given the risk.

I also believe the large coalitions do not provide content, as much as they drain it out of the game. They are all mostly self-sufficient and invincible. They do not need what someone else has, nor do they need to work with others for any reason.