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Those of us in FW would know how to eeasily counter this. 😏

While I really don't care for any of these changes people will learn to adapt and get used to the play style. If these changes do go forward here are my thoughts:

*Prime Time - Worst idea I've heard of. What makes this game unique is that it's going 23/7 and you need to be prepared for anything at anytime. A suggestion would be to allow the structures to be initially attacked at any time but then allow defenders to adjust reinforced timers +/- a couple of hours. This would need to be done in a vulnerable state (i.e. hauler bringing strontium to change the timer should be vulnerable and not able to hide behind any shields; mechanic could work for POSes as well as sov structures) forcing attackers to actually keep better watch of their targets during reinforce.
Another great piece of this game is having alliance mates worldwide. Creating an alliance Prime Time will push people to joining alliances in their Prime Time.

*250km range of the tech 2 module - WAAAAYYYY too far out. As many people have stated this is going to turn into interceptor warfare or cloaky-nulli tactical cruisers. This will just turn into attackers way out of range and a defender coming in to the sov structure to defend, therefore no true PVP interaction and we are falling asleep in the grind. Bring this in to something that will provide a decent orbit yet still promote the potential for PVP, say 50km-75km max.



EDIT: I'm also seeing a lot of people suggesting that they don't understand the benefit of owning null sec. While I'm not going to even begin listing out all of the benefits for virtually no work for 90% of the alliance members (sorry to the logistic folks that make it all happen) I think it is important to point out that you should not expect a 1:1 correlation between risk and benefit. Null is not there so that you can outpace all other players 5:1 in income. It will give you a slight edge in many (if not all) functions. Let's be honest, if you didn't see the benefit in sov null sec you would not be in sov null sec. With that said I do have a couple of suggestions on improving null sec:

*Allow for bonuses to moon harvesting yield and planetary interaction yield.

*Allow the ability to increase/decrease (not eliminate) the frequency of WHs in your systems based on preference.

*Allow bonuses to invention success rate to aid alliances in being more self sufficient and reducing the Jita trips.

It seems that the majority of the problems related to the entosis link I'm reading here could be alleviated by making three changes to it.

A) structures being captured will have an 'uncapture' timer associated while an enemy entosis link is not active on it. In other words if an enemy captures a structure to say 50% but then is forced to leave. the structure will slowly undo what the attackers have done until it is back to full strength. (say 30min as just an example) this could then be sped up by the defender using an entosis link but it at least gives reason for the attacker to need to return if they do not want to lose the ground they gained and simply swapping around structures in a system would not have nearly the benefit it does in the current proposed idea.

B) make the entosis link unavailable to interceptors. frigates are still fine because warp bubbles will completely disrupt an attackers ability to literally troll an defender into submission. It is the warp bubble immunity and speed associated with them that is the main problem with the entosis link.

c) reduce the range of the t2 down to 100km. This would still give more than enough orbit range to keep ship (defense fleet) speed up while allowing defenders to actually be able to shoot them. 250km is just ridiculous as that pushes the total bubble of influence to 500 km in diameter! I'm all for bringing back a reason to have fast ships but that's a little absurd.

I have a question


what going to happen when we need to get the military level up in a system and the true sec suck and you have to rat is ****
system.

will be a way to change the true sec of a system if we use it. If not what's the reason for ratting? and what are bored system no one will ever rat because of the high traffic. You know no one going to mining in a system next to possible enemy. is there any way that we can add pvp kill into the system. I talking about the reinforce time.

250km is just the nominal range of the weapon system, you still need a target lock. If you fit a ceptor for maximum lock range it will have the resilience of an air balloon and the lock range will still be closer to 150km than 250km btw.

Well played Jenn!

An entire thread about null-sec and you still manage to whinge about hi-sec.

That takes some mind set to do

Kinda works, kinda doesn't... now you're forcing them to bring something that can deal with a POS either in terms of tanking it for upto 40 minutes (without RR) or first killing the POS and then capping the point...which is back to n+1 capital warfare again.

No to pos sov defense, too many guns for zero person showing up for defense. Give entosis same effects as cyno - it locks you down and puts a beacon on you. If system is occupied, someone will get a free kill, working as intended. If system is empty, you just soloed a sov system, working as intended.

Here is some thoughts on addressing income.

1) make moongoo mineable by the players, and not a pos. reclassify the rorqual to a active moon mining ship. So the rorqual can moo mine and boost a fleet and miners can mine. Subsequently, price could drop on these.

basicaly make active hunting out of moon miners. Also gives people the option to do moon mining in total.

A few items to add regarding this

The rorqual cannot be in a pos and moon mine.

The rorqual cannot mine on a moon that has a pos present (so pos dumping is a strategy to stop miners). Yes you can grief with it, but you'd have to bring a hauler just to dump one.

Allow players to hack dead sticks to unanchor them (avoids dead sticking).

The rorqual industrial core should provide bonuses to moon mining and resistances to survive a assault on the rorqual (think of it as mega tank mode). The industrial mode should also protect the rorqual from ewar (same as siege or triage). This gives a lowsec rorqual some protection from being tackled by a subcap, and in some respects makes people require a hictor. The other option is to give the rorqual a flat out ewar immunity that supers have. I would also add dscan immunity to the rorqual also for less "I just found you by dscan move".

What this does is put industrial and miners on the same level of the entire pvp player base. You need them to mine, they need you for protection.

This does a few things. Pos fuel for mining pos is no more. Players have to actively mine. Defense fleets matter. Your location matters even more because you must have people to actively mine moons and pay attention to do it.

This does murder corporation and alliance funds for large and enormous groups. This also gives individual players a way to supplement their income by doing a mining process.

Obviously speed up how much a rorqual mines moons.

I would supplement what the rorqual does with what the orca could do. Basically allow the orca to compress minerals and ore and ice without the need for the mining pos item. Obviously you can still have it and use it if you want. Also I would allow moongoo to be stored in a orca's ore bay for transport.

siphons for moongoo is basically broken and could be removed if this change was considered.

The only reason I bring this is up is because people keep talking about anomaly ratting as the only income. I think the ultimate income should also just be put directly into the players hands. As this is a Sov revamp, the fight for the most valuable part of it also needs a revamp.

So you prefer to give up expensive ships? Which system are you in?