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I see a fundamental problem in the sov revamp and is that we are having it in small pieces. They have a lot of work behind and I won't deny that but you can't take significative data and analyze based on a situation where you are half way to the end of the project.

Phoebe left us with a horrible sov system and a horrible way of traveling. How comes CCP thinks that this will encourage people taking the effort in grinding structures? No one will move a finger until everything is figured out.

This system is more dynamic and has a lot of potential but as of today, it feels like a ton of effort to have exactly what. What are the benefits of the so called localism and sov occupancy? You just have more people piled up because you need good indexes but how this people is going to have a steady income, how alliances are going to be able to fund their activities and whatnot.

You can't circumvent the metagame and people will do as much as they can to keep their status quo untouched.

Lets be real. No one has 40k friends because they love friendship. You need to get your **** in order and feel that you are safe, that you can comfortably escalate a fight if needed. You need friends to help you when someone else knocks at your door . Otherwise you just sit and watch big guys destroying your stuff at their will. This will keep happening no matter how fancy the "capture the flag" is. People will still have allies, and powers will still be there, the big picture isn't likely going to change much.

Ok now lets talk about how I'm going to stockpile 4k nerds in a couple of constellations without having an aneurysm over destroyed MTU's. No, better don't talk about that.

Lets talk about grinding a sov that is worth the effort. Lets talk about having sov that makes the risk worth it. I foresee a future where truesec, moon goo, minerals, industry and capital ships are rebalanced. But until then, we are forced to play with a 25% of the picture and we are forced to take conclussions based on that. Which will lead to false conclussions.

In September we will be wondering huge coalitions are still a thing.

Since we lost the war versus the CFC, drama has been the major conflict driver in New Eden. You can't expect a huge coalition to collapse to give content to the rest of EVE. The idea behind making more small fights is cool and all, but meanwhile we speak about HOW we take the sov, the alliance leaders are wondering WHY we are doing that. Whats the purpose if it will mean a lot of extra work for that little return?

Vast empty regions that are held because of their moons are already a thing. Big entities will let little guys hold their sov. But god forgives them if they come after their R64s and such. It will be as it is right now. Nothing will essentially change as we will adapt to anything CCP comes up with.

If CCP wants 0.0 to change, to be diversified, big, healthy with PVP and PVE then you need to provide that. In no particular order. You need to provide a steady income source for your guys WHILE you allow small gang pvp in that territory. A bit difficult, eh? You need to provide alliances with passive income to do their alliance stuff because the floor between entities with trillions in their wallets and the rest is massive. You need as well to improve local production and harvesting of resources. All of this in a 0.0 like Catch? Our members struggle to make money here because there are hostiles everywhere, and it is a ****** region in terms of PVE. Go to the north to see AFK ishtars. Go to the east to see dumb renters ratting in supers, etc.

I am eager to see what this comes up to. But at this point, as of today, I see a change in how we are going to play the game of sov, but i don't see the mighty return, the risk vs reward, the encourage to settle down huge wars that have impact on the media. As I see things now, and I would like to be wrong, nothing is going to change at all.

And I wish I could help to change it.

Wrote a few responses earlier today and came to a realization.

Every time they do a major dev blgo in the last 2 years basically I find myself liking the game less and less. I also know im one of many who feel this way. You would think that sometime in the last 2 years CCP could have made a major change that I liked but doesn't seem like it. (im not quitting the game, not yet at least, still pretty addicted + 2 many friends), but if a large part of the player population feels the same way I do it will not bode well for the future of nullsec and to a larger whole the future of eve.

Sov changes were ALWAYS going to be contentious, but the jist of the changes seem to suggest that CCP didnt really listen to very much of anything the existing null leadership said, which is extremely disappointing as we were your focus group that had a pretty good feel fo the pulse of the issue. I hope CCP can wade through this, and re imagine alto of whats going on here.

Put your own lazer on it, hold ground until a friendly gallente or caldari ewar boat can come and stop him locking the structure = reset his timer and get you another 2 minutes closer to bedtime.

Stalemate over once someone with some sense arrives from either side...and it forces a fight or retreat from your opponent on that structure.

in fact, just fly a damn kitsune to 0, EWAR the inty, use one of your highslots for a link. Game over inty, come fight or f-off :)

CCP this is some great stuff you guys have going here. Please don't cave to the big power blocks, I can only speculate why they have the need to hold such vast areas of space or what happens to all the isk that they make from their renal empires, however it is clear that it has nothing to do with content creation.

The only thing I can think of that could be a potential problem is cloaky AFK camping, this can be easily fixed by adding a cycle timer to the module, forcing the cloaked player to reactivate the cloak every x amount of time, and if they are AFK it gives the inhabitants of that system a fighting chance to scan down the camper and destroy his ship. Right now cloaky campers have no risk versus a lot of reward of griefing the inhabitants of the system being camped which is not what EVE is about as it is a game of RISK versus REWARD.

That's my 2 cents and you don't have to like it.

I suspect this is a bit of a soft reset on the part of CCP.

All the objections we have have merit, but I think we need to see this from the larger picture of needing to shake up null from the clutches of monolithic blocs.

Yes, in the long run organization and perseverance will prevail, but the immediate effect of making sov change this laughably easy is that large areas of 0.0 will switch hands, often many times.

It sucks if you have invested a lot of time and effort into the upgrade of your systems, it sucks if you have a large cap fleet and still lose sov to a bunch of tenacious inty pilots, and it sucks that you now find anomaly grinding as a replacement to sov structure grinding. This will appeal to some, and kill the game for others. It's a hell of a gamble, but what with the state of 0.0, something drastic was needed to soft reset the board.

For that at least, we can give CCP kudos.

Not sure if you're being serious but we don't necessarily want to hold vast quantities of space. We just want sov wars to be fun and meaningful.

Question:
Will the Sov requirement for Capital Production will be changing also ?

But this is all dependent on who you live by. If you are surrounded by AUTZ the others are obsolete.

Well it's eve, 1 player shouldn't be able to beat 30...

These mythical intys...are they align fit or lock range fit?
I mean a 2s align inty probably doesn't have the lockrange to kite at 100+km (haven't EFT'd it, just a hunch) and a fit that can lock out to 100+km probably can't align in 2 seconds...

If they're not able to orbit at 100km+ because of align speed reqs then web or scram range bonused ships will make short work of them. If they're able to orbit at 100km+ then just chuck EWAR on them and then kill them when they try to jump to the next system because they can't align in 2s.

edit: after 4 hours of fun and games you can go back to ratting.

100% chance for faction spawn on anomaly in military 5 systems with low drop rate to boost isk/hour? hmmm i take it every day