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Are you addicted to SP?

Elsa Asques
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#41 - 2015-02-09 23:31:25 UTC
Dominique Vasilkovsky wrote:
Elsa Asques wrote:
I'm not. I sold my main one year ago and started a new PvP character, that character was biomassed today to start again.

You must love training the fitting skills over and over...

Not especially :)

But I do enjoy getting kills with half million Sp
Faylee Freir
Slavers Union
#42 - 2015-02-10 07:23:22 UTC
I like the passive character progression. A long time ago when I didn't have much i was responsible for I would have hated eve. I could have no-life's as much as I wanted but never felt anything different come out of it. I've tried to get friends to play, but they seem to think it's far too passive. I can see that and have even felt that way... Until I started creating my own content. I really love finishing something like racial cruiser 5 as it opens up so much to do. 12d from gallente cruiser and 17d from Caldari. Then I need to go finish all my medium weapon specs for those that I use on a regular basis. At 44m so I'm really happy with my toon.
Frank Millar
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#43 - 2015-02-12 12:17:23 UTC
I've been giving this subject some thought and I have come to a different conclusion than I first posted (or maybe it's schizofrenia...).

As this toon is nearing the end of its training (still millions of SP to go, but whatever), I find SP gets less interesting.
Anything I am training now maybe adds a few percent to the overall stats, but doesn't add experience in a meaningful way; not with my current, casual gameplay.

In other games, I have a tendency start over again, again and again, just because the character or gameplay didn't work out, or because I just feel like it.

I will keep this toon, ofcourse, but I am contemplating rolling a new one and start from scratch, just to see how things work out.

relocation LLC.
#44 - 2015-02-14 01:19:15 UTC
im on a 72 day skill queue with all lvl V's in it.....i am taking full advantage of my remap. i am addicted, i love being the "best" even putting off training other racial ships to make sure when i have them, they are maxed. its very important.
Alaric Faelen
Goonswarm Federation
#45 - 2015-02-21 03:14:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Alaric Faelen
Personally, I am not. I am addicted to being able to fly as many things as possible and enjoy the diversity of the Eve ship line up. This means that while I can fly almost any sub capital ship- I am not really 'perfect' at many.

The real issue with 'all V's' and less than that comes down to fleet planning. Fleet doctrines usually assume all V's not out of 'more is better' but because it allows an FC to plan his tactics accordingly. For example, a kiting fleet will assume you have the speed and agility to keep up with the rest of the fleet- the entire fleet is hobbled by the player with sub-par skills. Another example is in drone fleets, where the range and tracking are critical- and the difference between T1 and T2 drones can spell the difference between hitting a target and being out of range. So that it's not enough to be able to simply fly an Ishtar....but can you fully employ it's capabilities like the rest of your fleet?

An FC (and doctrine developer) will base their decisions more on the potential of a given fleet, assuming all characters have maxed skills- than anything else. "I have a dozen megathrons and four scimitars...I can tank this amount, and deal this amount of this range". That allows the FC to decide what fights to take, and which to avoid, as well as how to proceed during each encounter.

For the solo pilot, the drive for 'perfect' skills is even more pronounced, since every 2 or 3% of something can literally spell the difference between victory and being podded. When flying alone, you have to squeeze every last ounce of performance from a fitting, and sub-max skills are always an obvious hole in the dyke that needs plugged.

A bit of a double edged sword. FC's and fleets need you to perform at least as well as everyone else- while playing solo means that sub-par skills are a critical liability you can't hide from thru sheer numbers.
DW inc
#46 - 2015-02-21 23:06:30 UTC
Approaching 250 million sp now and i'm also over 200 skills at lvl 5.....Hardly really play much and have the skill queue mapped to the end of the year, with not much left to aim for, so the game has gotten kind of stale for a long while now.

Why do I play?...I don't have a clue anymore, and it's more of a chat channel with graphics where I keep in touch with friends really...:P
Simulacra and Simulation
#47 - 2015-02-21 23:43:59 UTC
I was looking at ranks and saw your name yesterday. 246 million SP, I recall.
Dominique Vasilkovsky
#48 - 2015-02-23 11:00:18 UTC
4 months to go until I reach the next milestone, 200m SP and 240 level V.
Mirime Nolwe
Mantra of Pain
#49 - 2015-02-24 16:18:10 UTC
For some years i was addicted to optimize my SP/hour, since the birth of this character i trained only the skills that suited my atributes. Sadly, i lost that feeling arround 2 years ago.

Probably it's because a mix of reasons, less time to play, almost perfect sub-capital character, industrial character and market character, plus a long game stagnation (little xpac content).
Charlie Jacobson
#50 - 2015-02-24 18:34:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Charlie Jacobson
While I do enjoy the occasional level 5 skill pop on my main, I've actually had more fun lately with optimizing a new alt's skill plan to get the most oomph possible out of his low SP.

The goal for my alt is to only fly T1 frigs and destroyers and max out every relevant skill for those.

EDIT: Now that the trial period is 30 days I'm even tempted to create another alt just to see how far I can get starting from scratch yet again! (I have a problem, please send help!)
Vartan Sarkisian
Stay Frosty.
A Band Apart.
#51 - 2015-02-25 17:02:54 UTC
I used to be addicted to wasted SP, especially when there were clone costs, but now the clone costs have gone away, and clone death means nothing (unless you are carry expensive implants) then I am not as obsessive about my SP. I have queued up about a years worth of stuff to skill up, but I will dip in and move things to the top as I see fit.
Black Parrot
Sylvanas Super mercenary
#52 - 2015-03-03 12:55:07 UTC
On my main, I spent 2 years training Gunnery to V. Then after one release, they added Doomsday Devices to Gunnery. So, even though I can't use them, I spent over 60 days training DD to V. The first 4 levels were fine. Level 4 to 5 was 57 days....

I luv my SP....
Avenger Mercenaries
VOID Intergalactic Forces
#53 - 2015-03-03 15:32:27 UTC
Im not addicted, I can stop anytime I want.

403 skills 163m sp and every skill at lvl 4 and with 1/3 or so of them at 5

"Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mind." -Dr. Smith

Best Year Fix
#54 - 2015-03-09 15:16:59 UTC  |  Edited by: InfectReality
I'm in the same boat as you. For some reason I hate seeing skills not at level 5. I have 2 that are not at 5 and it really bothers me. I will end up training those to 5 as soon as current skill finishes.
143m currently.
DW inc
#55 - 2015-03-13 22:20:23 UTC
Rain6637 wrote:
I was looking at ranks and saw your name yesterday. 246 million SP, I recall.

About to complete my 4th large gun specialisation to lvl 5 now (1 week away), with 2 more left of these left to go......They're 26 days a pop for a pathetic 2% increase, but that's what I'm left with training wise....Minimal gains and huge training times basically.

Just about to hit 30 million sp in gunnery alone though...:)
Prioress Celestine
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#56 - 2015-03-14 19:07:14 UTC
You are totally not alone on that. This char is my third char and she hasn´t seen space longer than 15minutes. She is training complete SoE skills before leaving station for real. So far she has 247 days in queue but whenever a skill finishes she gets a full queue again. 7mil SP with 7skills at V sounds a bit stupid to most people but since I don´t need her she can just train for another year or so before she is going out.
On my two other chars it´s not that extreme but I am slowly training stuff up to V some just for the sake of it. There are more efficient ways to train your char for sure but well, I have time and I am patient so no problem.
Dead Terrorists
#57 - 2015-03-15 08:09:53 UTC  |  Edited by: ArmyOfMe
Dominique Vasilkovsky wrote:
Rain6637 wrote:
Were you still Mashie when I commented that I want Mashie's skill sheet eventually? It's ideal to me...

I think so yes as that was a while ago.

God how much wasted sp you had on that char, industry 5 Shocked
you should be ashamed of your self, your worse then me.

and yes, addicted to lvl 5's. Currently training every missile and gunnery skill to 5, which is about 4 months of training left. After that i have no freaking clue what to train as ive pretty much coverd every single combat related skill then.

177 skills currently at lvl 5.

GM Guard > I must ask you not to use the petition option like this again but i personally would finish the chicken sandwich first so it won´t go to waste. The spaghetti will keep and you can use it the next time you get hungry. Best regards.

Simulacra and Simulation
#58 - 2015-03-15 10:06:07 UTC
Charlie Jacobson
#59 - 2015-03-15 10:28:03 UTC
Rain6637 wrote:
Captials m8

Catalysts, m8
Gimme Sake
State War Academy
Caldari State
#60 - 2015-03-15 10:46:49 UTC
Nope, just need the skills.

"Never not blob!" ~ Plato