EVE General Discussion

Well I would say a yes and no.

Fantasy is just that fantasy. I can easily distinguish between fantasy and reality. When I play a game my brain then tell me.. this is make believe, there are certain game breaking rules (EULA) that I need to abide by. GO!!!.

I then perform actions based on the rules within the game universe. In RP Games I always play the bad guy, in Mass Effect I always played the Renegade, in Knight of the Old Republic I always went to the dark side. But the once again, when I return to real life my brain is able to adjust.

I would rather say those that are effected in RL by the actions taking place inside a fantasy game should prolly seek help since your brain should be smart enough to adjust and cope with the difference between reality and fantasy.


If your argument was true, running around killing people in FPS multiplayer games means you are then a killer in RL as well. Or could easily become one. Watch FOX News much?

The NEX store.

NRDS, Anti Pirate.

If I find myself in an NBSI Alliance I will enforce NBSI inside the sovereignty of the alliance I am in, no more. Even there I am not obligate to shoot exploration vessels.

It's not negotiable with me. It's who I am in EVE.

Is it EVE Hard mode? Often times, yes. M'eh, I can handle it.

Well if he intended to mean that he has a nature of a neglected 5yo old ?

My line is quite simple; I refuse or at least actively avoid to exploit a position of trust mainly meaning that I don't awox or loot hangars when I leave a corp no matter how ratty and I actually consider my self still owning a billion or two to certain parties if those guys ever come back to game to ask for their ISKies from a past ventures.

Haven't seen them for years so my loans might expire tomorrow or maybe never.

I don't care as much about my public image as I care about my self-image. The line is where I wouldn't like to see myself.

That includes:
- everything in the EULA and TOS, of course;

- begging for ISK;

- spamming local with "scams", or better to say uncreative intelligence insulting one-liners (ISK doubling, price number missing or added,...). Please note that I have nothing against investment scams, Ponzi and pyramid schemes, meta-game scams, gambling sites or creative fresh scams (although I never felt a need to run one). Dumb "scams" with a lot of spam in local is my line;

- smack talking;

- ransoming in PvP. When I do PvP I do it until either me or my target explodes. That's just my view on PvP;

- not honoring 1 vs 1 fights. I've learned a lot by (repeatedly) losing ships in 1 vs 1 fights against some of the best pirates out there and I gained a lot of experience and sometimes even advices that made my game better. I simply wouldn't allow myself to take that away from whoever wants to go 1 vs 1 against me (if I win) or to pass the opportunity to learn something new (if I lose);

- freighter bumping for multiple reasons. The reasons are: I consider bumping mechanics to be broken, there are much more creative and fun ways for me to spend my time on this planet than dry humping a defenseless ship, it does not provide a quality gameplay for any of the involved parties and is borderline grief play if you don't intend to shoot the damned thing;

- docking games, because it's more fun to watch the paint dry;

- not honoring an agreement of goods exchange when there's no third party involved. I don't expect the other party to feel the same and I always assume that the other guy wants to scam me, but I'd never go that low myself. There are plenty of ways to steal and scam in this game and direct exchange of goods is not the most fun, original or creative way to do it. I also don't expect other players to trust me either, so we either agree that I will honor the deal or we get a trusted third party.

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Now, I was thinking to include the following but there are situations where either I have done it in the past or under right circumstances will do in the future:

- awoxing... it's not on the list because some people just deserve it. It highly depends on the target's personality, but there were and there will be situations where awoxing is actually the good thing to do;

- suicide ganking because I did it before. A combination of being drunk and having a friend in the same state resulted in two smartbombing battleships warping at 0 to a bunch of miners and it was actually fun at the moment. I also did a couple of gate camps ganking haulers a couple of years back out of pure boredom, but I don't find it fun or enjoyable but rather a pure product of having too much free time (was unemployed back then). I hardly see it as something I'll do again (not having that much of a free time anymore and seeing it as something I grew out of), but I couldn't include it in "The Line" list because I've did it before.

- corp theft since it really depends on a corp. If the corp is made out of a bunch of douches, I'd be tempted to do it and depending on the situation I can see my self robbing them, but there really has to be a hell of a reason to do it instead of just leaving the corp and putting them on the block list. This primarily relates to (but not limited to) ISK buyers or ISK sellers, corps with culture of shooting blues,...;

I just act like I do in RL, it's easier for me.

I don't betray people that trust me, I'm generally a nice guy but I have little patience with the weak, none at all with the stupid.


And I try to blow up anyone that isn't blue, because it's a game about blowing up people.

I don't scam, smack talk, or suicide gank. Or pester mission runners/miners (feels kinda like kicking a bum). Never pulled an awox or corp theft, don't think I'd ever want to. I'm not quite a Chribba but I'd say I'm a nice and trustworthy capsuleer. Yet some people still consider me to be a terrible person and call me all sorts of mean names.

It would amuse me if you applied that concept to EVE.

"I didn't gank that shuttle with 50+ PLEX in it, therefore, I make more ISK than you."

I draw the line at scamming and backstabbing people. I don't find anything wrong with those aspects of the game, it's just not part of me, yet anyway :)

Brilliant question OP I am so glad you asked (Just to make it very clear for all the conspiracy theory fans in GD, the OP is in no way associated with the New Order).

As you may have guessed I and many other Agents of the New Order and law abiding citizens in New Order territory (formerly known as Highsec) are following the New Halaima Code of Conduct which was written by our Supreme Protector, Saviour of Highsec and father of the New Order, James 315 in addition to the required rules provided by CCP.

Other that the rules provided by CCP which may contain many gray areas with an unknown number of invisible lines (thou shalt not cross them invisible lines!!), the New Halaima Code of Conduct is an easy to read document every miner with only a hand full of brain cells will understand.

The New Halaima Code of Conduct gives us the guidance to create a better Highsec and a better EVE together as a community. It also provides you with the moral high ground in every situation you may encounter in modern New Order territory.

In conclusion, I would like to thank our Saviour James 315 for looking out for us in this dark times and for filling our hearts with hope and honor where there was only greed for ISK before. I would also like to thank our Goonswarm overlords for making all this possible.