Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Oh wow, win. My 50 mil SP Falcon Rains thank you.

Dat Pilgrim too.

I have a heavy neut troll fit that just got way more interesting, easier, and better.

What about only being invisible from d-scan if mods are inactive?

That'd go some way to addressing concerns about FW camping, using them as invisible pve boats etc. Guys who forget to activate damage controls in their excitement when they land would be easier to kill off etc.

Still. I sorta feel like I'm thinking up safeguards against rampant abuse, which suggests it's not a very good idea in the first place.

Oh, I know it's not your intention. I was just pointing out that yes, people do complain about cloaks. Quite a bit. The afk cloak is just the most obvious example.

I don't understand the need for such drastic changes in the combat recon like adding the immunity to d-scan. Recon ships don't need to "stand out" they already have decent powers (web/newt/scram/etc). One is sneaky and one has some teeth (thought not that sharp). now you are making the beefy one also sneaky??. This completely breaks the game. I know eve is meant to be played in groups, but this basically trashes a lot of solo work, trashes small wormhole groups and basically gives an insane edge to attackers. A large group of recon ships right now isn't all that scary, but now a large group can sneak up on ANY smaller group it wants and still pack the punch to trash them.

There is less and less advantage to small/medium groups as changes have been made over the years, but this is over the top.

If you want to get people out of womrholes, there are easier ways.

Wow...

TL;DR: don't like the "no d-scan" thing...

Longer version:
FW takes a hit... "oh, but the farmers...." ... will just move down to small plex' and you solved nothing. That'll also be no more "I wanna' have some fun for 30 minutes and none of my 4 corpmates are online" PvP, in anything larger than a faction frig or dessy. My guess is that will drive some casual players away.

Griefer-wars in high-sec? It's got potential to become more nasty to low SP players than it already is. I know nothing about WHs, so not gonna' go there, and I haven't been living in null for some time, so I don't really know how anoms are handled or how much a problem AFK cloakers are.

I do however see low-sec small-gang taking a turn for the worse, and blobs really take over. Gatecamps will now be something you'd avoid messing with, even if you're about of even strength on paper; target system has 8 in local, 4 on gate - 2 lachesis and 2 huginns sitting perched, or are those 4 docked, or in one of those velators on scan? Don't know, and can't spare a guy to probe to see if I should be worried. The result would be that I would avoid camps, not taking the fight because of the unknown variables - I'd be forced to use more time on each system with a neut in it, where I'd potentially fight - time that I A.) don't get, because the enemy's already forming a blob, or B.) time that I don't have because I'm an old fart with a family and don't want to waste my precious hours gaming probing for stuff that may, or may not be there instead of just shooting people. Getting even (== interesting) fights is pretty rare these days as it is - you want to make it harder and you even wanna' give the blobs more tools?

I really hope that someone with a bit love for small-gang and low-sec puts their foot down before this becomes reality.

why the literal **** isnt the curse getting a 5th low? do you still want shield tanking curses? i mean thats totaly un amarr.

Its looking like the rapier will be the new belli. I think the 10% missile dmg suits RLML way better than a RoF bonus. Means more possible damage per clip, and equal or higher alpha than standard bellicose. Plus web or tp bonus with more mids and resist profile.. the rapier has some potential. Though, dps will prob be about the same as the belli.

100% not bitching about it, just wondering out loud at the potential lack of people running anoms in wormholes with no way to protect themselves anymore. The hunter side of me is doing back flips at being able to jump into a wormhole and not be spotted until i have point on something.

At the end of the day, the Directional Scanner is a very valid intel tool. How about we change the new role bonus to "makes this character not appear in local chat"

how many Null sec tears would we see then? :p

I know right! Thats like minmatar having to armor tank a muninn... oh? That exists.. probably deal with it like minny pilots do. You at least have wtfpwn neuts going for you.

Well look on the brightside, at least your kin and explo resists will be really high.

maybe both minnies should be missile based, but maybe rapier could be armour tanked instead give it a 5th lowslot and more armour than shields