EVE General Discussion

What kind of arguement is that? Get the same as your enemy, but more? Damn, you´re good at game balancing and tactics.

So, in other words, you´re adding nothing to the discussion. Way to go, bro! I am glad to have you in these forums :)

What kind of counter-argument is that?
It sounds like you just want everyone to let you win.

This is where my country went wrong, was by telling kids that they're all winners, giving everyone a trophy, and punishing talent, intellect, and skill, because it makes everyone else feel inferior. You realize you were supposed to naturally grow out of that in high school, right?

Why would you.. probe down.. someone.. whos sitting.. on.. a ... gate? I mean.. you know exactly where they are.. and if you are on the same grid as them.. they.. aren't.. off.. grid.. boosting...

Your own advice..

I thought a proper boost alt was unscannable even with perfect skills, the best implants and an appropriate ship fit all and only for scanning? Or has this changed?

No, he gets it just fine. You clearly don't, as evidenced by the very existence of this thread.

Until it is reworked properly, they could add more risk and choice in using OGB. Activating warfare modules gains a weapons timer. Limits hugging gates and stations. After all, it is a function directly linked to offensive modules and combat activities.

Also, these links and all their processing for vessels in an entire system connected to it increases sig radius, making them easier to prob down.

I think that it's probably okay to add any form of active support to kill mails. That includes logistics and boosters. This is aside from the fact that I find the kill mail system flawed to begin with, and giving away too much intelligence from both the winners and the losers.

I also agree with the people who propose that boosters should inherit the timers of their recipients. However, there would be an issue here with regard to the criminal timer. Targeted assistance shuts down when someone goes criminal, but since boosting affects multiple people at the same time, that wouldn't work as a solution. Criminally-flagged people would need to become "boost-ineligible" somehow.


Good try, but probably something around 80% of my entire active activities in EVE are solo pvp. I'm either doing wars, alone in a wormhole, or using EVE as a chatbox. I both use boosters, and face them commonly. As part of the mercenary work I do, I've both been hired to boost others and sniff out enemy boosters to organize ganks on them. So when I talk about this topic, I speak from a wealth of personal experience with it, unlike say, faction warfare or jump drives, which I stay silent on.

The fact of the matter is that on-grid boosting will disproportionately hurt smaller forces in uneven engagements. This isn't backed up by wishful thinking, but by pure math. Ships and fits in EVE have upper EHP thresholds (which are very low, for boosters, by the way). If incoming firepower exceeds a certain value, then you pop instantly without any recourse; there's no amount of logistics you can bring to save yourself from that. The net effect will be that any force that's capable of a certain amount of dps (let's say 50 ships) will have a disproportionate advantage over any force smaller in number.

That's not a good direction in which to take EVE's pvp.

If you're going to ask for a change in the boosting mechanic, at least do the game a favor and ask for it to be removed entirely instead of being made on-grid only. At least that way, the balance of power will be preserved.


This has changed a while ago. Nothing in the game is unscannable anymore, although it can be very difficult to probe down. The thing about boosters though, especially T3s, is that adding scan resistance really cuts into their ability to boost well. Still, some further balance could be achieved here.

I feel bad for you so I'll clue you in.

They were talking about scanning down OGBs.

Ask yourself.

Why would you scan down a ship?

You do this because you have no way of warping to it.

Ask yourself

If the OGB is on a gate, is there a way to warp to it?

Yes, you warp to the gate.

So if they're talking about scanning down a ship when you have no way of warping to it, and you can warp to ships on gates, do you think they were talking about ships on gates?

I don't expect this opinion to be popular, but I don't think boosting should ever improve the ability of a solo pilot. Off-grid or on-grid. I'd remove most of the boosts entirely in their current form.

All remote modules would receive a boost.
Other boosts introduced on specific factors. In fleet with at least one full squad, smaller ships can receive boosts to speed, sig rad and point range. Larger ships can receive boosts to tank, sensor strength, and scan res.

It's a rough idea but the main points are:
- Remote module boosts for solo/small gang only
- Expanded boosts for gangs 10+ in size or some other arbitrary number
- Different boosts for different ships based on their size and/or role