EVE General Discussion

Another concerns is popups lock the overview and module access. Staggered illegal attacks would actually make it even harder to properly defend oneself.

I guess that should be easy to change, but I'm with Tippia - seems a tad pointless to spend time on.

No they don't, there are plenty of popups that don't do this. Convos don't do this anymore, either. In fact, the only thing I can think of that does this is the box to set standings when you're adding a contact.

Downtime and notifications like the recent broadcast one about overview settings were what popped to mind.

However, you're correct :) I see no reason the mechanic couldn't work like that.

Can still see it being a PITA if it is a popup/per shooter - can you clear them quickly enough?

Additionally, those particular popups will pop up for everyone, so the gankers would have to clear them too.

The ones I had in mind? Yeah, but had the "HALP BUTTON™" taken the same style (which we've established it doesnt have to) then only the victim would be mashing it.

Actually, I'm quite fond of the idea of CONCORD not appearing at all if a ganki victim is afk. If he intentionally makes himself incapable of mitigating the risk to himself, why should someone else do it for him? In this case, why should a game mechanic be doing it for him?

The victim would still get killrights, and the ganker would still take a sec hit. Absolutely nothing else would change except that if a gank victim does not acknowledge an attack to himself, then punitive measures won't be taken. You could even put it into lore - how is CONCORD to know you're under attack if you don't tell them?

So basically the same CONCORD response times based on the system but the pilot has to call for help by pressing a button or something?

I guess this would work but no calling CONCORD just because you feel threatened. Otherwise pilots would just press the button to always have CONCORD near.

If they respond immediately this would be an extreme buff to botting, as it would be very simple to automatically respond to such an event.

EDIT:
If it is not immediately, can he still call CONCORD if he is already dead? Alpha Fleet?

edit - deleted my comment by accident....ughhh

Most of the new posts here are just recycling old arguments or trolling, and don't deserve a response. On the other hand I am always ready to respond to the reasoned discourse from my favorite New Order agent.

She begins by labeling me a "fanboy" of the New Order. What she neglects to mention is that the New Order incepted communications with me, demanding that I purchase their "mining permit" to run incursions. I replied that since I don't mine, I would not even consider purchasing such a permit. I was then prominently displayed on the minerbumping.com webpage. At that point I further engaged with CODE, becoming increasingly aware of their harming new players, and having a detrimental impact on the game.

She goes on to accuse me (a charge I also face from Loyalanon, their CEO) of "not being good at Eve" because I don't spend my precious time in half-hearted attempts to stop New Order ganks (of course they also malign the "white knights" who do impede their ganks). Of course, because I think that the New Order abuses game mechanics and looks for unintended loopholes, my time is better spent raising these issues and getting CCP to issue a global solution, rather than spending it trying to stop a few ganks (and inflicting minimal cost on the CODE agents who are not ganking for isk anyhow).

To me, as a supported of reasonable suicide ganking, it is quite painful to see CODE maligning the entire mechanic. When I was a young player, I was deeply impressed with the efforts of Myndowen, https://zkillboard.com/character/94217100/ , who was quite the expert at separating haulers from too valuable cargo. He always maintained positive security status, and used a well fitted tornado for his ganks. CODE, on the other hand, operates at -10 security status with dedicated suicide gank alts, who do virtually nothing else in the game. They find unintended loopholes in the game mechanics, and are not looking to gank ships with overvalued cargo, in the process teaching the players important lessons about Eve, rather they are purely doing it to generate tears and drive people from the game.

Given their growing number and impact, I think it's only a matter of time until CCP takes action. In addition to my change to nerf their abuse of bumping, I think it's critical to make -10 security status a lot more painful. Specifically, faction police spawn time should depend on security status, and people whose status is too low will be unable to operate in highsec until they go to lowsec and rat, run missions, etc.... This "grind time" will force CODE agents to be more selective about their ganks, and not just blow up every ship they see for tears and giggles.