EVE General Discussion

Kaarous ...

He simply writes what people don't want to read and what keeps them posting.
I bet if it was WoW he would rant about how the lack of suicide gankers is killing the game.

I never played WoW so no idea. :p

Let me tell you a story.

I started playing this game when I got banned from Darkfall, a player-skill based full loot pvp game with siege warfare and the best combat you could ask for.

EVE wasn't a game that was very exciting to me. The combat I felt was uninteresting to me and required little player skill. I only started playing it because it was one of the only risk/reward pvp games in existence. What was interesting to me was the complexity of the game so I continued to play it, not actually playing it but having it run in the backgrounds. This is the only way I will play EVE as it currently does not feel worth my time investment to get more into it. I don't play enough to be in a corp and have always been solo.

I used to mine in a hauler before the mackinaw changes. "Why would anyone mine in a hauler?" you might ask. The reason was because it had a cargo hold and i could leave it AFK while I got **** done in real life and played other games. Since I was only checking back every so often, it made more sense for me to play this way and I loved that there were creative solutions for your playstyle (or there was for me untill the Rattlesnake nerfs ).

I set out to play EVE with an AFK playstyle in mind. I maxed planetary interaction and R&D skills and I trained for a freighter, thinking that transporting goods would be the best way for me to actively make money with my character while AFK for long periods of time. At least half the isk used to purchase my freighter came from mining in a hauler, my first purchase over 400 mil.

I had been hauling in my freighter afk for several months before I first heard of "bumping", and then I still wasn't sure what it was. I had no idea that it was even possible to gank a freighter in high sec, and I did not pay close attention to the forums as I find most of the regular posters here to be disgusting people.

Even after 3 years I still consider myself a newer/casual player. I hadn't done a lot of hauling in my freighter but it It has only been out of sheer luck and my casual playstyle that I have not been ganked. Had such a catastrophic loss occured for me, I surely would have quit this game. The narrow profit margins of hauling in a freighter nowhere near make up for the excessive precautions now needed to ensure you aren't victimized by a bunch of greif monkeys that pay no significant costs or penalties for their actions.

When broken stuff like this happens and you see people getting away with it in high sec, it seems completely unfair and you will ask yourself if the game is worth it knowing that you will continue to be at the mercy of people who are often sociopaths and who seem to have all the advantages.

This game has really been on the ropes for me now after I found out I can't play this game like I thought I would, and after CCP Rise gutted the creative possibilities of the Rattlesnake . I only do afk activities anymore but I still pay a monthly sub in cash, hopeing that the game will change for the better soon. Maybe for some of you, this game is your life, but for many it can be fairly easy to drop once something pushes you over the edge.

TLDR: Casuals, newer players can own freighters. Suicide ganking does cause people to quit and its usually the casual, newer players who pay cash for their subs. It takes away from the game and causes disgust with the game from its players.

Great post. While I personally oppose autopiloting ships, because space is dangerous and should be treated as such, I agree with you that there is a major imbalance in how suicide ganking works. I have my 5-6 billion isk battleship at risk, PvE fitted, and the gankers risk only their cheap gank ship, which they know they will lose anyway. There are no real consequences for going -10 sec status, especially if your suicide gank alt is dedicated solely to that activity. I think the result is a lot of hurt feelings and players quitting the game.

Some fine posting right there. Pic related.

I can absolutely confirm that it's Fabulous Rod now. He spun that same Darkfall story in the Rattlesnake thread.

Still expecting the game to cater to his maladjusted expectations, instead of adjusting himself to the reality of the game.

Nah, their grammar structure is too different. No one is that hardcore.

I am seriously considering putting out a contract on Belvedere though. He's starting to become tiresome.

Kaarous, stop eating his bait already!

Take a step back and look at yourself!

I know what I'm doing, oddly enough. I'm bored at work, with little else to do. Making them look the fool is good short term entertainment.

Tried to actually retrieve the data about Freighter kills, but too tired to actually plot the stuff. This is the script I used (forum somehow murders the indentation):


It somehow crashed because of some ssl crap I was to lazy to debug still got some of the data, probably zkillboards site. Don't murder me because I abused the API. It also has a cap at 200 kills, which I was too lazy to fix as well. But it may still give you some idea about the state of things.