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Has suicide ganking become a problem? Empty freighters being ganked.

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NoLife NoFriends StillPosting
Doomheim
#3221 - 2014-09-01 22:26:10 UTC  |  Edited by: NoLife NoFriends StillPosting
Mag's wrote:
I too play numerous games without knowing how to play, then complain vigorously when I lose and blame the other player.


Your simplistic view is telling. You also make ridiculous comparisons. Nowhere is EVE advertised as: "Kamakazee grief monkey - the game". Usually victims don't learn about suicide ganking until its too late, and then that cost you a sub out of being complete bullshit that rewards risk-averse players too afraid of real pvp.

Being unaware of concord response times is a common lack of knowledge that the gankers rely upon, much like the margin trading scam. Its not something that you expect from normal gameplay because you don't usually see it until it happens to you. It common sense that this is just dumb and bad for the game.
Solecist Project
#3222 - 2014-09-01 22:28:21 UTC
Hengle Teron wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
Snipe for sexy pic....

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This thread really needs me. ^_^

*cough*

wait, that's not you
Oh that's me, no worry. (:

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#3223 - 2014-09-01 22:28:34 UTC
NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:
Nowhere is EVE advertised as: "Kamakazee grief monkey - the game".


"EVE: Be the Villain" ring any bells?



Quote:


Usually victims don't learn about suicide ganking until its too late, and then that cost you a sub out of being complete bullshit that rewards risk-averse players too afraid of real pvp.


Citation needed as to how many players per year quit because of suicide ganking.

Especially since new players by definition cannot fly capital ships like freighters.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Hengle Teron
Red Sky Morning
The Amarr Militia.
#3224 - 2014-09-01 22:30:01 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
Hengle Teron wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
Snipe for sexy pic....

https://www.dropbox.com/s/i0c63xav96gz146/asdfsdf.png?dl=0



This thread really needs me. ^_^

*cough*

wait, that's not you
Oh that's me, no worry. (:

That's a lot of make up then P
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#3225 - 2014-09-01 22:33:46 UTC
NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:
Mag's wrote:
I too play numerous games without knowing how to play, then complain vigorously when I lose and blame the other player.


Your simplistic view is telling. You also make ridiculous comparisons. Nowhere is EVE advertised as: "Kamakazee grief monkey - the game". Usually victims don't learn about suicide ganking until its too late, and then that cost you a sub out of being complete bullshit that rewards risk-averse players too afraid of real pvp.

Being unaware of concord response times is a common lack of knowledge that the gankers rely upon, much like the margin trading scam. Its not something that you expect from normal gameplay because you don't usually see it until it happens to you. It common sense that this is just dumb and bad for the game.

yeah that subs leaking bit is you talking out of your behind

i'll agree the lack of proper instruction as to game mechanics is a problem but it's one solved by making the resources available to players better than the slow unhelpful wiki we've got currently

fanfest 2014 devs talked about an ingame tool 'similar to civilopedia' and i'm hoping it's an accessible instruction manual rather than a lore guide
Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
#3226 - 2014-09-01 22:41:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Crumplecorn
NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:
Nowhere is EVE advertised as: "Kamakazee grief monkey - the game"
Unless at you look at any thread about EVE anywhere ever.

NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:
complete bullshit that rewards risk-averse players too afraid of real pvp
Actually suicide ganking is an equal-opportunities rewarder, it's not like the tears suddenly stop flowing if you happen to be suicidally risk-inclined.

NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:
Its not something that you expect from normal gameplay because you don't usually see it until it happens to you. It common sense that this is just dumb and bad for the game.
So anything in the game which can't be fully understood unless you read about it, hear about it, or see it in person should be removed? Amazing.

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Solecist Project
#3227 - 2014-09-01 22:41:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Solecist Project
"suicidally risk-inclined"

funny.

(:
:)

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

NoLife NoFriends StillPosting
Doomheim
#3228 - 2014-09-01 23:13:03 UTC  |  Edited by: NoLife NoFriends StillPosting
Let me tell you a story.

I started playing this game when I got banned from Darkfall, a player-skill based full loot pvp game with siege warfare and the best combat you could ask for.

EVE wasn't a game that was very exciting to me. The combat I felt was uninteresting to me and required little player skill. I only started playing it because it was one of the only risk/reward pvp games in existence. What was interesting to me was the complexity of the game so I continued to play it, not actually playing it but having it run in the backgrounds. This is the only way I will play EVE as it currently does not feel worth my time investment to get more into it. I don't play enough to be in a corp and have always been solo.

I used to mine in a hauler before the mackinaw changes. "Why would anyone mine in a hauler?" you might ask. The reason was because it had a cargo hold and i could leave it AFK while I got **** done in real life and played other games. Since I was only checking back every so often, it made more sense for me to play this way and I loved that there were creative solutions for your playstyle (or there was for me untill the Rattlesnake nerfs Straight).

I set out to play EVE with an AFK playstyle in mind. I maxed planetary interaction and R&D skills and I trained for a freighter, thinking that transporting goods would be the best way for me to actively make money with my character while AFK for long periods of time. At least half the isk used to purchase my freighter came from mining in a hauler, my first purchase over 400 mil.

I had been hauling in my freighter afk for several months before I first heard of "bumping", and then I still wasn't sure what it was. I had no idea that it was even possible to gank a freighter in high sec, and I did not pay close attention to the forums as I find most of the regular posters here to be disgusting people.

Even after 3 years I still consider myself a newer/casual player. I hadn't done a lot of hauling in my freighter but it It has only been out of sheer luck and my casual playstyle that I have not been ganked. Had such a catastrophic loss occured for me, I surely would have quit this game. The narrow profit margins of hauling in a freighter nowhere near make up for the excessive precautions now needed to ensure you aren't victimized by a bunch of greif monkeys that pay no significant costs or penalties for their actions.

When broken stuff like this happens and you see people getting away with it in high sec, it seems completely unfair and you will ask yourself if the game is worth it knowing that you will continue to be at the mercy of people who are often sociopaths and who seem to have all the advantages.

This game has really been on the ropes for me now after I found out I can't play this game like I thought I would, and after CCP Rise gutted the creative possibilities of the Rattlesnake Cry. I only do afk activities anymore but I still pay a monthly sub in cash, hopeing that the game will change for the better soon. Maybe for some of you, this game is your life, but for many it can be fairly easy to drop once something pushes you over the edge.

TLDR: Casuals, newer players can own freighters. Suicide ganking does cause people to quit and its usually the casual, newer players who pay cash for their subs. It takes away from the game and causes disgust with the game from its players.
Solecist Project
#3229 - 2014-09-01 23:16:28 UTC
That's why the game survived for 11 years.

Because suicide is literally killing.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

NoLife NoFriends StillPosting
Doomheim
#3230 - 2014-09-01 23:20:05 UTC  |  Edited by: NoLife NoFriends StillPosting
Solecist Project wrote:
That's why the game survived for 11 years.

Because suicide is literally killing.


Do try not to be so obnoxious. Reality is far more complex than the extreme, black and white viewpoints which you and your ilk constantly present.
Hengle Teron
Red Sky Morning
The Amarr Militia.
#3231 - 2014-09-01 23:22:39 UTC
NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:
stuff


So you admit you're no actually PLAYING the game, but you still see where the problem of this game lies.
Solecist Project
#3232 - 2014-09-01 23:24:25 UTC
*sighs*

If at least you wrote something that's worth diving into...
... but you don't even believe your own words ...
... so what should I do? :/

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

Solecist Project
#3233 - 2014-09-01 23:26:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Solecist Project
lol hengle

he is just trolling ppl all the time
but most don't seem to realise. xD


eventually i will write a summary and put it into a pwtition. ^_^

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#3234 - 2014-09-01 23:26:45 UTC
NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:
This game has really been on the ropes for me now after I found out I can't play this game like I thought I would, and after CCP Rise gutted the creative possibilities of the Rattlesnake Cry. I only do afk activities anymore but I still pay a monthly sub in cash, hopeing that the game will change for the better soon. Maybe for some of you, this game is your life, but for many it can be fairly easy to drop once something pushes you over the edge.

TLDR: Suicide ganking does cause people to quit and its usually the casual, newer players who pay cash for their subs. It takes away from the game and causes disgust with the game from its players.


So you're saying that you're upset that you can't protect yourself in this game by not playing the game?

Seriously?

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon

Solecist Project
#3235 - 2014-09-01 23:27:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Solecist Project
ruby, no, he is not serious.

he just keeps people posting. :)
Seriously, he is just baiting all the time!


ooohhh sexy pic snipe...

https://www.dropbox.com/s/bovj8m0ctsf7bdr/Screenshot%202014-08-22%2022.30.54.png?dl=0

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

Hengle Teron
Red Sky Morning
The Amarr Militia.
#3236 - 2014-09-01 23:33:20 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
ruby, no, he is not serious.

he just keeps people posting. :)
Seriously, he is just baiting all the time!


ooohhh sexy pic snipe...

https://www.dropbox.com/s/bovj8m0ctsf7bdr/Screenshot%202014-08-22%2022.30.54.png?dl=0

uhm what were we talking about ?

oh never mind, it couldn't be that important
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#3237 - 2014-09-01 23:34:11 UTC
I can absolutely confirm that it's Fabulous Rod now. He spun that same Darkfall story in the Rattlesnake thread.

Looks like his attitude hasn't improved any, either. Still expecting the game to cater to his maladjusted expectations, instead of adjusting himself to the reality of the game. And lashing out at anyone who cares to correct him, to boot.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#3238 - 2014-09-01 23:37:01 UTC  |  Edited by: RubyPorto
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
I can absolutely confirm that it's Fabulous Rod now. He spun that same Darkfall story in the Rattlesnake thread.

Looks like his attitude hasn't improved any, either. Still expecting the game to cater to his maladjusted expectations, instead of adjusting himself to the reality of the game. And lashing out at anyone who cares to correct him, to boot.



I remember Fabulous Rod. He spent a couple weeks spamming me with hilariously abusive mails on his alt after making a fan thread for me on the forums.

Because a Forum alt isn't enough, you have to have a mail alt.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon

Solecist Project
#3239 - 2014-09-01 23:37:19 UTC
Kaarous ...

He simply writes what people don't want to read and what keeps them posting.
I bet if it was WoW he would rant about how the lack of suicide gankers is killing the game.

I never played WoW so no idea. :p


That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#3240 - 2014-09-01 23:39:20 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
Kaarous ...

He simply writes what people don't want to read and what keeps them posting.
I bet if it was WoW he would rant about how the lack of suicide gankers is killing the game.

I never played WoW so no idea. :p




Oh, no, I disagree, butthurt like that can only be genuine.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.