EVE General Discussion

Oh imagine that, making it harder to gank freighters....Maybe it's because suicide gankers have decided to do everything in their power to make highsec a miserable place to live in, and get as many "carebears" as possible to quit the game. Even now, post freighter change, my ant-ganking intel channel is swarming with intel on CODE highsec ganking, often targeted at empty freighters, with minimal repercussions for the -10 sec status CODE gankers.

Already today Loyalanon has killed two Orcas, a Charon, 3 Obelisks, and a Rhea. There has never been this kind of organized and sustained ganking of haulers in highsec. And a lot of it has to do with exploiting bumping, and minimal punishment for career suicide gankers.

I know you saw what CCP Falcon said. After that do you really think CCP is going to budge on this issue?

You are confusing "people" with the regular crowd of argumentative forum-'socialites' who no one takes seriously and can't concede a point. Most of the rational people seem to agree that suicide ganking is a problem and does not carry risk or penalties that match the rewards. Its completely broken and its embarrassing that unfair mechanics like this continue to exist in EVE for so long before getting fixed.

That simply isn't true, or more new players would last past their first month. A fundamental change in attitude is required to ensure EVE's future.

Something, something, that scaremongering crap simply doesn't fly.

EVE's future has been fine for ten years, despite the likes of you crying about how it will die! if CCP doesn't ban PvP in highsec. And yet, here we are, still here, still playing the game.

Find some other narrative to use to advance your bullshit agenda, this one doesn't cut it anymore.

people still play ultima online and hello kitty online. Your argument is totally invalid.

Nobody is asking for an end to high sec pvp. That is so ridiculous. Do try to think before you post.
You seem to be confused about what pvp is. Suicide gankers are only successful because people don't expect it. Most of the victims of freighter ganks aren't even aware it was possible. Its not real pvp. Its just abusing lack of knowledge about the game, similar to margin trading scam.

Its bad game design all around, nomatter how you look at it and doesn't fit in with the risk/reward that EVE is supposed to have. This thread has grown to over 150 pages solely due to the refusal of a minority to accept this obvious fact.

I don't have any reason to believe CCP falcon has much say over what happens in EVE.

Given the facts, I'm sure there are some CCP employees concerned that the lost subs aren't worth allowing these ridiculous and broken game mechanics to continue to exist, especially considering the total lack of risk or penalty when victimizing unaware players.

If you kill ganking high sec pvp dies. War decs are meaningless and easily avoided. Where else will high sec pvp come from? Duels on Jita undock?

You are right on one thing. Suicide gankers are only successful because people don't expect it. Being AFK makes it hard to expect anything. High sec is totally 100% safe if you follow low/null survival rules. Litterally 100%. The only reason ganks happen is because people can't be bothered to protect themselves because they think they don't need to. And 99% of the time they are right. What that means is that Suicide ganking is actually too hard. Much Much Much too hard. New players need to learn the survival rules not 'I can do whatever I want without consequences'.

Well, im not going to bother wasting any more time with you, Tippia. You don't want to see the facts or common sense, as usual. I would have to have some serious mental issues to find it worthwhile arguing with everyone endlessly in a pathetic attempt to validate my existence every night, and in such an obnoxious manner.


I'll let you and Kaarous have the last word so you can think you "won".

Lets go over todays Iteron V bad choices.

Firstly, he chose an iteron V to haul near 400 million in cargo. This was mistake number one, he picked the wrong ship for the job or if thats all he could fly, he chose to not make several trips.

Second mistake is the lack of a tank. Just look at that, not a single tanking mod to be seen and worse yet, the mods he did fit all reduce the tank. This is the classical anti-tank fit.

Third mistake, he was AFK. A sin all to common among haulers and miners alike.

Fourth mistake, he was on autopilot. Now by itself its not a bad tool, however when you are in an anti-tanked t1 hauler with 400 mil in the bay it is just asking for trouble.


This haulers choices are what caused his death, the ganker just happened to be in the right place at the right time and got lucky.