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High Sec Hauling/Mining Kills - TY CCP for No Protection

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#61 - 2014-08-27 15:20:31 UTC
Vyl Vit wrote:
However, what is being said about high sec is quite an honest reaction. So vilification of the OP for it can only be done by those who like to do this sort of thing - our beloved gankers (read: low attention span, low intelligence, no insight, no way to make long-term plans or arrangements.)
Nope, like Jenn I'm not a ganker, I mission, I mine, I trade etcetera, in short I'm what many would call a bear.

I am however a realist, one that appreciates that I am playing a PvP game, and takes steps to mitigate the chances of becoming a victim; that is the difference between a carebear and a bear.

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CompleteFailure
DAWGS Corp.
Boatload of Destruction
#62 - 2014-08-27 15:26:16 UTC
BoBoZoBo
MGroup9
#63 - 2014-08-27 15:27:33 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
You can do something about it yourself. No need to ask CCP for help.



In fact, it is the whole point of the game.
OP did not read patch notes.


OP - When did CCP say they were going to protect you?

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Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#64 - 2014-08-27 15:37:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenn aSide
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Vyl Vit wrote:
However, what is being said about high sec is quite an honest reaction. So vilification of the OP for it can only be done by those who like to do this sort of thing - our beloved gankers (read: low attention span, low intelligence, no insight, no way to make long-term plans or arrangements.)
Nope, like Jenn I'm not a ganker, I mission, I mine, I trade etcetera, in short I'm what many would call a bear.

I am however a realist, one that appreciates that I am playing a PvP game, and takes steps to mitigate the chances of becoming a victim; that is the difference between a carebear and a bear.


That's why I say there are 2 kinds of 'bear (3 if you count the hairy man-loving types, but lets go with 2 for right now).

The pvp-Sandbox 'bear is the guy who likes PVE but understands that he's playing an open world PVP game and thus is a target for people who want to pvp (whether the 'bear wants to or not). The sandbox bear (SandBear? off to the copyright office I go) LOVES this and measures his playing ability by how much he is able to carebear WHILE thwarting the evil machinations of the dastardly PVP freak.

It's like being a Gazelle that finds a pride of Lions and starts twerking in front of them while singing 'can't touch this' (or maybe, 'can't eat this') then runs away.

Then there's "themepark bear", the guy who, after a long day of flipping burgers or some other menial job, comes home and wants nothing more than to kick back and feel like a hero because he can kill some wild boars in Azeroth or fly his mining ship in EVe and give those evil rocks (who he imagines all look like his boss) a right good rogering.

The IDEA that someone can come and remind him that he is indeed a loser is so galling that he must take action, that action being 'run to forums and complain' but somehow not 'stop giving 15 dollars a month to sandbox pvp gankfest game makers'.
Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#65 - 2014-08-27 15:45:13 UTC
One of these things is worthy of respect. One of these things is not.
Seriously, not trolling here. I used to be like Jenn and Jonah, then I was lured to the darkside by promises of cookies.
I still haven't gotten any cookies, but I've had a great deal of fun. I consider myself a bear in recovery, only by bathing myself in the blood of my own kind can I achieve a higher state...
Even before I learned which end of the blaster meant business, however, threads like this gave me facepalm induced migraines.
A fundamental misunderstanding of what EVE means is at work here, and it's something that needs to be quashed.

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#66 - 2014-08-27 15:47:21 UTC
Duchess Amarrian wrote:
Last night my hauling ship got blown sky high. I was flying a prorator and doing some deliveries. The person that shot me down organised it really well by setting up contracts and sucking in the person accepting the contract. I wont go into detail here. As i was making the delivery and just 1 second from being docked into station my ship got blown sky high. From what ? a minmitar Battleship that was so many km's away. It took 2 people to stop me.

I keep hearing that ccp wil be doing something about this. I've just had enough of it. Seriously I'm trying to find some fun in this game and seeing that the others always have the edge over miners and haulers in high sec is a real joke. I don't mind if it had happened in low sec and null but when your playing by ccp rules to me it seems there are no rules and high sec is really a joke.

At the very least give miners and haulers some big guns like you give others and maybe will balance things well.

The two that got me are "Luukje" and "Natural CloneKiller". I put up a big bounty on Luk so enjoy your hunting.

cheers





First of all, welcome to EVE. No, CCP is not doing anything about anything that is entirely within your own power to do something about. What you experienced was EVE working as intended. It's up to you to learn from it and mitigate the odds of it happening again. Anything else is your own failure.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Paranoid Loyd
#67 - 2014-08-27 15:52:44 UTC
LOL, 7 Bil

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Luukje
The Vendetta Mercenaries
Vendetta Mercenary Group
#68 - 2014-08-27 15:53:48 UTC
Having a 7.1bil kill is nice, but all this drama is so much better than a bit of isk Lol
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#69 - 2014-08-27 15:54:48 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
It's like being a Gazelle that finds a pride of Lions and starts twerking in front of them while singing 'can't touch this' (or maybe, 'can't eat this') then runs away.
Lol

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a right good rogering.
We'll make a Briton of you yet.
Resistance is futile, you will be reassimilated into what's left of the British Empire...

EvilTwisted

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Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#70 - 2014-08-27 15:59:02 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
...British Empire...


For those that don't know, this is what is meant by a contradiction in terms.

Blink

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Misunderstood Genius
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#71 - 2014-08-27 16:07:51 UTC
Sequester Risalo wrote:
Wacktopia wrote:
How about this; create some insta-undocks - problem solved.


Misunderstood Genius wrote:
You can get around this with
- an insta-undock off-grid (especially in the major trading hub systems)
- using a cloaky Blockade Runner



If you (and some others) had bothered to actually read the thread before posting your valued opinion, you would have noticed that the lady did in fact fly a blockade runner and was in the process of docking when the incident happened. Please explain how insta-undocking would have helped in that situation.

Thank you


Thanks for the hint. I missed that.

- a bookmark at undock or backside of the station at 0

The insta-undock hint will help next time not to get alpha'd when undocking and aligning.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#72 - 2014-08-27 16:09:36 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
...British Empire...


For those that don't know, this is what is meant by a contradiction in terms.

Blink
Otherwise known as an oxymoron P

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Mythrandier
Solace Corp
#73 - 2014-08-27 16:19:03 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:


I am however a realist, one that appreciates that I am playing a PvP game, and takes steps to mitigate the chances of becoming a victim; that is the difference between a carebear and a bear.


Never (or at least not often enough) have more accurate words been uttered in GD.

If more of highsec thought like you sir, we wouldnt see as many terrible posts as the op.

Ps. Love the new avatar Jonah.

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Boom McCondor
Doomheim
#74 - 2014-08-27 16:20:13 UTC
The fun will come weeks later when you have a properly fitted ship and you manage to slide right by that guy who ganked you. Happened to me last night on an alt, and the ganker is actually one of the posters in this thread Big smile
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#75 - 2014-08-27 16:21:34 UTC
Mythrandier wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:


I am however a realist, one that appreciates that I am playing a PvP game, and takes steps to mitigate the chances of becoming a victim; that is the difference between a carebear and a bear.


Never (or at least not often enough) have more accurate words been uttered in GD.

If more of highsec thought like you sir, we wouldnt see as many terrible posts as the op.
I like carebears, they make me look good Bear

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Ps. Love the new avatar Jonah.
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Paranoid Loyd
#76 - 2014-08-27 16:22:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
Boom McCondor wrote:
The fun will come weeks later when you have a properly fitted ship and you manage to slide right by that guy who ganked you. Happened to me last night on an alt, and the ganker is actually one of the posters in this thread Big smile

I saw you, just wasn't prepared Blink

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Boom McCondor
Doomheim
#77 - 2014-08-27 16:23:30 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Boom McCondor wrote:
The fun will come weeks later when you have a properly fitted ship and you manage to slide right by that guy who ganked you. Happened to me last night on an alt, and the ganker is actually one of the posters in this thread Big smile

I saw you, just wasn't prepared Blink

Can you lock that fast? That ship was in warp before it even uncloaked!
Paranoid Loyd
#78 - 2014-08-27 16:24:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
Boom McCondor wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Boom McCondor wrote:
The fun will come weeks later when you have a properly fitted ship and you manage to slide right by that guy who ganked you. Happened to me last night on an alt, and the ganker is actually one of the posters in this thread Big smile

I saw you, just wasn't prepared Blink

Can you lock that fast? That ship was in warp before it even uncloaked!

Depends, probably not though. Nice to see you adapted.

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#79 - 2014-08-27 16:26:01 UTC
Boom McCondor wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Boom McCondor wrote:
The fun will come weeks later when you have a properly fitted ship and you manage to slide right by that guy who ganked you. Happened to me last night on an alt, and the ganker is actually one of the posters in this thread Big smile

I saw you, just wasn't prepared Blink

Can you lock that fast? That ship was in warp before it even uncloaked!
The moment you moved you appeared on the overview, regardless of what you see on the screen.

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Boom McCondor
Doomheim
#80 - 2014-08-27 16:27:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Boom McCondor
I don't carry anything SUPER expensive, and Avoid the Loyd is kind of a fun game.

EDIT: Thanks Jonah. I never really knew exactly when you could be seen. Not really something I paid attention to.