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I unliked this so I could hit LIKE again...
Also ear bleeding is a thing now, cool visual

*Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal..

As I said, it's not my fault you got it wrong. If you know what you are doing, there doesn't have to be 'grinding lvl 4s' to get to these new burner missions. Even still, these missions seem to be a nice change of pace for real PVE players AND other opportunistic sorts, such as the ninja looting community who WILL scan down the players in the missions and find a way to steal their loot, which will make for some pretty epic tears posts on these forums.

I. hate. missions.

That's Ok, Lots of people do too. I'm not a big big fan of them either, which is why I blitz.

What lots of people don't do is post in threads about pve content when they hate pve content lol.

Hey everyone. Thank you very much for the enthusiastic responses in this thread!

It's always a good feeling as a designer when the most common feedback from the community is "sounds good but you should make more of it" and "sounds good but you should let people get to it more easily".

I completely understand why people would want to have these missions accessible from their own dedicated agents, and that is definitely something we'd like to do with similar missions in the future. However since these missions are going to be a bit more profitable than average level 4s and because there's only going to be five of them in this initial deployment, they aren't really suitable to stand on their own right now.
As an aside, we're completely aware of blitzers (there are plenty of very efficient mission runners in this office) but we feel there's a pretty good range we can place these rewards where they'll be missions that average level 4 mission runners like to see without completely imbalancing the blitzing gameplay.

It's possible that we could attach some of these sorts of missions to a similar system as the pirate faction epic arcs (which also represent some very engaging small ship PVE content) in addition to their presence in the general level 4 mission pool. That kind of addition would not come until after Hyperion however.

I'm also seeing a lot of excellent questions about the capabilities of these NPCs. I want to be clear that these NPCs are evolutionary steps from previous NPCs, not revolutionary.
We have a team dedicated to improving our PVE content authoring tools, which will bear fruit for NPCs and AI in the future. In the meantime however, we are also continuing to improve our content with the tools available to us now. That's why the Hyperion release is featuring these new missions as well as the set of Incursion improvements that CCP Foxfour describes in this thread.

So the upshot for these NPCs is that they will act in a similar manner to some of the other recently added NPCs like the Mordu's Legion asteroid belt patrols in lowsec. The only completely new functionality they will enjoy is that the Burners who use warp scramblers will shut off player MWDs in the same way that player scrams do. These NPCs will not run out of cap, or warp away. Those kinds of improvements are definitely on our medium to long term roadmap, and when we do have them ready to go the burner missions will provide excellent places testing the new capabilities.

FW peeps likely have the state standings to swing out and do a burner.

faction standings. I keep saying/thinking state because caldari and jita, which is the faction standing that "matters" for market (jita).

You have been doing missions too long. You cannot stop chasing your tail.

I was trying to explain to you my interest in the cake (burner mission) that is buried in mountains of (in my not-so-humble opinion) crap (pve / missions):
I posted my interest and hopefully constructive explanation of why the burner missions fail for me as a PvPér:

Very very interesting. But then this " The fact that these missions can only be received as part of the random level 4 security mission pool should prevent them from being too farmable." OH BUMMER ... I am NOT a mission runner, but this mission grabbed my attention, but there's no way I'll grind brain numbing missions just for a chance at this one. I know farming missions is bad/stupid/lame and good to make it not farmable. but. There are probably other types of mechanics that prevent farming without excluding non-mission grinders... I hope...
Anyway this looks good.. (for "them") Ugh

You responded with what you appear to believe to be a helpful link and info on doing missions. *facepalm*
I explained in much simpler terms that I really do not like missions and will not be doing them. (In spite of the fact that burner missions caught my eye). I know hate is a strong word, but there you have it.
Thanks for the info that would be probably helpful to someone who has their brain wired for repetition. My brain is not wired that way, which is why I like to live in New Eden. If I want to do missions/PvE/repitition, I would play every other game there is. But mostly DOOM.

Fly wild & smart
o7

Where to start ?, Lets start with a PvP toon.

I’m a player X months old, I have good frigate skill, medium cruser skills and low battleships skills,
I do not have the skills for normal level 4 mission, I would like to do the new "Burner" missions, but I can not do the normal level 4, I need to be able to get past the normal level 4’s, to get the "Burner" missions.

Here is what I would like,
- The agent has the normal “Request mission” button, and a “Burner mission” button.

With this steup, a player can request a normal level 4 mission or a burner mission.
I hear somebody say “ But that is mission farming”.
So what, and why not, most player farm normal level 4 missions anyway, Ok how can we fix this
1 – Set the pay out to allow for the fact that the players are doing 10 Burner missions per hour.
2 – Have the agent use a mission request timer, IE.. The agent will only give out a Burner mission every 5 minutes


Now what happens with the above Game Mechanics installed into Eve

I am a 6 years old player, I have my ways of making ISK, “Burner mission” might not be one of them, and not my main source of ISK, that you can be sure of, ( Don’t ask, I’m not telling, LOL ).
So why do I want ot do these new mission,
1: they are new, I haver being playing that long, I have done everything.
2: ( Main reason ) The challenge, ME ‘v’ CCP, have they come up with something I can not do, ( Don’t think so, lol ).
My knowledge of Game Mechanics, ship fitting, combat tactics, etc.


In Incursion I have come face to face, with NPC that can jam you (ECM) at 75Km, drain your capacitor completely in 1 second at 25Km, so here are a few question you need to ask yourself before you take on a burner mission, Can you kill a NPC while..
- You are jammed, ECM, no lock targets.
- You have no capacitor, completely drained.
- Your top speed is less than 100 m/s, and the NPC is doing over 1000 m/s.
- Can you out tank/DPS the NPC.

If I get acess to the “Burner missions”, I will find the answers.



Epilogue
I am looking forward to doing the “Burner missons” and the new “Scout encounters (Incusions)” in Hyperion. After a few days ( I will need some time ), find me ingame, ask me nicely, and I’ll tell you the secerts.

Does this mean that players' scrams will not shut off the NPCs' prop mods?

that these missions [likely] can't be botted with a navy raven makes me happy