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Has suicide ganking become a problem? Empty freighters being ganked.

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Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
#2321 - 2014-08-03 13:22:32 UTC
Handsoff solo wrote:
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Handsoff solo wrote:

I agree criminals with bad standing -0.1 to -10 shot not able to dock ore enter Highsec no more ore make concord inst shot to the criminal with - standing.
2 months has past and noting is fix CCP haw long it will take to fix this.

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Ok we fully understand and we follow the rule but when EVE players support ticket ore post new thread regarding Ganking ore other mane issues NOTING IS FIX. ok i don t mine noting but some off the issues are ignored.

Yeah, in this case they will or did fix the game. What you suggest would break the game and will therefore probably not happen.


A a typical CODE and Goonswarm one and the same spitting on my face typical.


I'm neither and I still think your idea is spitting in the face of all logic and reason.
Quinn Hatfield
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2322 - 2014-08-03 13:22:36 UTC
Arkady Romanov wrote:
Handsoff solo wrote:
A a typical CODE and Goonswarm one and the same spitting on my face typical.


Gross. No thanks.
Some people pay good money for that sort of thing P

I don't burn bridges, I merely steal a bolt a day.
Mag's
Azn Empire
#2323 - 2014-08-03 13:55:37 UTC
Handsoff solo wrote:
Mag's wrote:
Handsoff solo wrote:
2 months has past and noting is fix CCP haw long it will take to fix this.
Fix what exactly?


Regarding Empty freighters ganking
I'm asking what about it needs fixing?

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Patrakele
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2324 - 2014-08-03 13:56:45 UTC
There is no punishment - why not do it?

Mag's
Azn Empire
#2325 - 2014-08-03 14:00:58 UTC
Patrakele wrote:
There is no punishment - why not do it?

Are you saying there is no punishment for suicide ganking?

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#2326 - 2014-08-03 14:09:50 UTC
117 pages & this thread has, as predicted, gone nowhere & provided very little in the way of meaningful content. No "Abloobloobloo, thing being ganked after changes" is not meaningful content. As the OP & his or her angry highsec followers have failed to provide content at any point during the last 117 pages, I propose that this thread be locked.

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#2327 - 2014-08-03 14:12:55 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
117 pages & this thread has, as predicted, gone nowhere & provided very little in the way of meaningful content. No "Abloobloobloo, thing being ganked after changes" is not meaningful content. As the OP & his or her angry highsec followers have failed to provide content at any point during the last 117 pages, I propose that this thread be locked.

seconded

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Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#2328 - 2014-08-03 14:14:17 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
117 pages & this thread has, as predicted, gone nowhere & provided very little in the way of meaningful content. No "Abloobloobloo, thing being ganked after changes" is not meaningful content. As the OP & his or her angry highsec followers have failed to provide content at any point during the last 117 pages, I propose that this thread be locked.

Should've happened on p. 2.

Remove standings and insurance.
Handsoff solo
H.I.D.R.I.A Industries
#2329 - 2014-08-03 14:16:57 UTC
Mag's wrote:
Patrakele wrote:
There is no punishment - why not do it?

Are you saying there is no punishment for suicide ganking?


Yes there is no punishment for criminals like Christina Project said

Most suicide gankers are just chestbeating carebears hiding inside the station
until they undock in a group, strike and vanish again. Ore switch accounts ore tons
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#2330 - 2014-08-03 14:20:44 UTC
Handsoff solo wrote:
Mag's wrote:
Patrakele wrote:
There is no punishment - why not do it?

Are you saying there is no punishment for suicide ganking?


Yes there is no punishment for criminals like Christina Project said

Most suicide gankers are just chestbeating carebears hiding inside the station
until they undock in a group, strike and vanish again. Ore switch accounts ore tons


Why don't you do something about them then?

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Handsoff solo
H.I.D.R.I.A Industries
#2331 - 2014-08-03 14:31:12 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Handsoff solo wrote:
Mag's wrote:
Patrakele wrote:
There is no punishment - why not do it?

Are you saying there is no punishment for suicide ganking?


Yes there is no punishment for criminals like Christina Project said

Most suicide gankers are just chestbeating carebears hiding inside the station
until they undock in a group, strike and vanish again. Ore switch accounts ore tons


Why don't you do something about them then?


Do what Gank a station are you're blind hiding inside the station Ore switch accounts ore tons after a gank
Christina Project
Screaming Head in a Box.
#2332 - 2014-08-03 14:33:51 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Handsoff solo wrote:
Mag's wrote:
Patrakele wrote:
There is no punishment - why not do it?

Are you saying there is no punishment for suicide ganking?


Yes there is no punishment for criminals like Christina Project said

Most suicide gankers are just chestbeating carebears hiding inside the station
until they undock in a group, strike and vanish again. Ore switch accounts ore tons


Why don't you do something about them then?

It's not actually like there's much people can do.

Don't be a hypocrit.


You know better than that.
99% of all the "gankers" are just lower class gankbears and cowards,
only out in space for less than a minute, spreading lies about how hard it is
to deal with the faction police.


You know it.
I know it.



Whenever people say "do something about it" they completely ignore that
there isn't actually much that can be done against cowards who just hide all day,
undock safely, warp to the victim and then vanish again.


It's extremely disconnected to ingame reality when people say "do something about it",
because they can't actually do anything about it.


That's the biggest part of the whole issue. If gankbears weren't cowards and more visible,
then people would do more against them. As they aren't, because they can't,
there's this huge inbalance that will eventually cripple the game.


So ... don't be a hypocrit ... or tell me how you expect people to do something,
but please stick to actual in game possibilities.

"Use ECM" ... "gank the gankers" ... is all nice and blabla ...
... but not realistic ... as one can't possible know before hand where they are heading to.

Remember ... they undock, strike, dock up again ... in a timewindow of less than a minute.

Completely unnecessary ... and cowardish ... and creates a huge inbalance.


And as you know ... I can tell ... so you can't just brush off my post like all those
others by the idiots who got no clue about the mechanics anyway.


I know it's worthless to say it ... but I will keep saying it ...
... because I don't accept that weak minds keep spreading lies and bullshit to ruin my gameplay.

[i]"Don't look into another human's bowl to see how much he has ... ... look into his bowl to see if he has enough !" - Sol[/i]
Christina Project
Screaming Head in a Box.
#2333 - 2014-08-03 14:37:06 UTC
To keep my post above unedited I'll add this ...


The issue isn't lack of punishment.

The issue is that people are cowards and avoid any form of danger.


They're just like the hating carebears.
The only difference is that these weak minds are in numbers,
while standard carebears usually are alone.


Nullbears.
Gankbears.
Carebears.


All the same, in the end.
An illness that needs to be purged from the game.



That's all there is to say about it.

[i]"Don't look into another human's bowl to see how much he has ... ... look into his bowl to see if he has enough !" - Sol[/i]
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#2334 - 2014-08-03 14:45:48 UTC
Funny how we screw up ganks all the time, but by all means, keep spreading this false propaganda that absolutely nothing can be done about it.

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Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#2335 - 2014-08-03 14:46:56 UTC
Handsoff solo wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Handsoff solo wrote:
Mag's wrote:
Patrakele wrote:
There is no punishment - why not do it?

Are you saying there is no punishment for suicide ganking?


Yes there is no punishment for criminals like Christina Project said

Most suicide gankers are just chestbeating carebears hiding inside the station
until they undock in a group, strike and vanish again. Ore switch accounts ore tons


Why don't you do something about them then?


Do what Gank a station are you're blind hiding inside the station Ore switch accounts ore tons after a gank


English please, I don't understand whatever language you're using there.

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Mag's
Azn Empire
#2336 - 2014-08-03 14:55:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Mag's
Handsoff solo wrote:
Mag's wrote:
Patrakele wrote:
There is no punishment - why not do it?

Are you saying there is no punishment for suicide ganking?


Yes there is no punishment for criminals like Christina Project said

Most suicide gankers are just chestbeating carebears hiding inside the station
until they undock in a group, strike and vanish again. Ore switch accounts ore tons
All I'm reading here is dishonesty and name calling. If you're going to suggest there is no punishment, at least back it up with facts.

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Iain Cariaba
#2337 - 2014-08-03 16:29:41 UTC
Christina Project wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Handsoff solo wrote:
Mag's wrote:
Patrakele wrote:
There is no punishment - why not do it?

Are you saying there is no punishment for suicide ganking?


Yes there is no punishment for criminals like Christina Project said

Most suicide gankers are just chestbeating carebears hiding inside the station
until they undock in a group, strike and vanish again. Ore switch accounts ore tons


Why don't you do something about them then?

Long whine

Your problem is that you're trying to fight fire with fire. We say 'do something about it yourself' and you start whining about how gankers hide in station, know how to use bookmarks to insta-undock, yadda, blah, etc.

Oh poor ******* you.

The reason you get zero sympathy from anyone outside the whiney, entitled, anti-ganker community is because the problem is not the gankers.

The problem is you.

You refuse to accept the responsibility for your own actions. Thousands of haulers/miners a day successfully undock, go about their business, make isk, and safely redock. They do this by taking responsibility for their own safety. They read guides on how to make themselves less of a ganking target, and unlike you, they put those methods into practice.

They don't have a problem with gankers. Only you and your ilk, apparently a small minority, have a problem.

There is only one way to fix this imaginary problem with gankers. The whiney entitlement mindset people don't need to HTFU, you just need to GTFO.

You whine that we're ruining how you want to play the game, well what do you think you're doing to us? The difference is we play the game by the rules while you whine like a child to get the rules changed cause you don't like them.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#2338 - 2014-08-03 16:41:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Iain Cariaba wrote:
Christina Project wrote:
Long whine

A retort that assumes the other is an anti ganker /carebear
This is getting silly, this thread now has gankers (Christina/Solestice) slagging off other gankers (CODE. et-al) and vice versa because they gank in a different way from each other Sad

Discord within the profession does nobody any favours and just plays into the themeparkers hands. FFS people show at least a semi united front against the insidious carebearisation of Eve.

@Sol, people can do something about it, it's called not allowing themselves to become a victim, by not flying dumb. Which applies as much to your style of ganking as it does to CODE.'s.

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Paranoid Loyd
#2339 - 2014-08-03 16:42:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
Iain Cariaba wrote:
Christina Project wrote:

Long whine
Ignorant reply


Sol is a ganker. He just for some reason thinks he is better than all the other gankers.

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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#2340 - 2014-08-03 16:47:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Ima Wreckyou
Christina Project wrote:

It's extremely disconnected to ingame reality when people say "do something about it",
because they can't actually do anything about it.

So you say the real issue is that we are so damn good at it that you are completely helpless with the current tools available to you is that what you are saying? So good in fact that CCP needs to modify the game in your favor. Because Faction Police, CONCORD and as many Capsuleer as you want who can freely engage us is not enough to stop us, that's how good we are. Only CCP can stop us (They have a magical sword on a USB stick).

I will assume here you tried as hard as you can, tried many different tactics and failed horribly. Because you failed that hard and you are frustrated that we don't just warp into your optimal with offlined guns and let ourselfs get podded we are obviously "gankbears" and "cowards" without honor. It's not you who is bad at the game, it's all our fault, because we "hide" in station.

--

The reality is you and your anti-ganker friends tried nothing. Not a single innovative new counter has been tried on the Freighter ganks I was present. It's not that there are no tools, there are a lot of them but you don't even try to use them. Instead you run to CCP with tears im your eyes and demand "victory by code change".

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