Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Bombers are the reason battleships are bad place in alrge fleets. But do not explain why they are in a bad place in small gangs as well (bar a few exceptions).

They simply do not bring up enough to compensate their lack of mobility (Something important in small gangs).. on larger gangs, where mobility is not that relevant.. then bombers are the problem.

Please do the slot change for Tempest. Right now it can't compete with other battleships nither in armor, nor in shield tank. Focusing it on armor will make it much more interesting.

phoon can do either .. it actually has more shield HP than armour .. weird indeed

maybe a compromise .. is 7-5-7 ....6 turrets with a 7.5% damage bonus 5% ROF .. with speed increase too be faster than phoon .. this way it would be the fastest shield tanked T1 battleship across the board .. or can be properly armour tanked..

But something must be done. Easier way is to improve the ship bonuses. 7.5% damage instead of 5% would already help a lot.

Right now it can be a bad shield tank battleship or a bad armor battleship. For the same treatment of having only 6 turrets the hyperion got a 10% damage per level bonus and KEPT his repair bonus and 125m drone bay and a superior slot layout . Tempest must use 2 bonuses to still be way worse.

Not so much projectiles are terrible. BUt the buff to balsters made projectiles have no zone of combat on battleship scale. Neutron with null outdamage 800mm AC all the way inside long point range. AC still are good on other sizes, but they lost their place in large size because of blaster changes. If you want to fight further still then you are utterly inside Pulses terrain.

Simply a ship based on Projectiles with 2 bonuses focused on damage , a small drone bay and with less slots available for damage mods than its peers (or on the case of shield tank.. with a tank so pathethic that it barely out tanks some t1 cruisers) cannot compete.

Random Idea:

Sentry drones take up 50 m3 drone bay, 50 MBit/sec bandwidth. Double Damage multiplier and add an extra 50% HP.

Add a rig to add Drone Bandwidth at the expense of CPU (small adds 5, med adds 10, large adds 25, Capital adds 125)

Now a Domi can have 3 Sentries (which are now firing as much dps as 6 old sentries) at the expense of a rig slot. If the ishtar wants that too, it has to spend all 3 rig slots. Seems a good trade to me.

nope would not... it would still have a far inferior tank and far less EHP . And Less dps. Yes less dps. Remember the drone bay and the fact hat maelstroms always have 3 damage mods, while most tempets would field 2.

It would nto obsolete on ANYTHIGN the maelstrom, woudl not even touch its relam.

The maelstrom also would remain as the prime fleet ship for alpha doctrines since it has larger EHP pool by bein g a combat battleship. If you want you coud reduce a bit tempest EHP even more when adding damage, biasign it even more as an attack battleship.

torpedoes being utterly awful is not intentional, it's just yet another balance issue to be resolved.

Uhm, no. Shield tanks have complete **** for EHP. The Rokh has less EHP than an Apoc (let alone a Megathron) despite having a resist bonus, the Maelstrom vs. a 7-low Tempest would be an even larger gap.

Armor has higher base resists than shield, (130 total vs. 110) and invulnerability fields stacking nerf the shield ganglink severely. Armor tanks can run a 3-hardener setup and get the ganglink at 88%, this more than makes up for the higher values on the invulerability fields. Then there's the fact that plates give more EHP than extenders and don't bloom your signature radius.

A Tempest with 3 hardeners, DCU, 3 trimarks, and a single plate has more EHP than a Maelstrom with 2 invulns, 2 LSEs, a DCU, and three field extenders. That same tempest can also run an injector, tracking computer, and sensor booster. The Maelstrom only has 1 midslot left, it has to pick one of those three. Oh, and the tempest has about half the signature radius, which significantly improves its effective tank, especially against bombers.

As i said, can reduce tempest EHP a bit more. And remember tempest cannot fit the arties and prop mod/ mjd as easily as the maelstrom because of PG. And WHY in HELL you would use an injector in an arti tempest or arti maelstrom? To feed what? the sensor booster?

And EVE if the tempest take the arti role ( and if it took would not be outshinign the maelstrom , woould be a matter of preference almost), maelstrom is still the far stronger smaller scale brawler with a massive tank. There is a reason why I still see a lot of maelstroms being used on that role and never a single tempest.