Player Features and Ideas Discussion

That would only grant them higher alpha...

Why can't we push off the changes that affect ship bonuses and the like until after the tournament? I thought that was the whole point of this 6-week patch release schedule, so that if something wasn't ready, or would cause adverse consequences for gameplay, it could be delayed.

Glad to see CCP management appreciates our hard work trying to put on a good show.

Rise, Muninn needs love. It's tagged as shield tanking on the progression tree, but has twice as many low slots as med slots. It has 3 med slots and I'm expected to shield tank with that?

Give it some love, more so than the Eagle needs a buff the Muninn needs a much bigger buff. It just isn't usable unless it gets 4 mids. Take that slot from the lows or the highs, I don't care, but just give the poor thing a fourth mid!

This is my fault. I skyped them and complained that drones weren't being used enough in Alliance Tournaments. :(

I usually don't comment on these threads but those of you complaining about sentries are bad and should feel bad for whining about them on the forums. Think a little bit outside the box and you'd see that sentry ishtars do indeed have a hard counter. But I get that people would rather whine on the forums than think about how to play the game. It's unsurprising that the dude from Black Legion is one of maybe three people on this thread who actually understands the drawbacks to sentries.

In any case, I think this nerf is pretty level headed and appropriate, which is probably the only time I'll say that in a CCP Rise balancing thread.

Please do something about the sacrilege. 2 low less low slots than the zealot and its meant to be the tanky one?

For the love of god, DO NOT LOSE this opportunity to save the Munnin.

Who knows when again you will do a HAC balance pass.

This ship is so damn pigeon-holed and basically, bad.

Just give it the Scythe Fleet treatment i.e. Dual Bonus. This will give the ship a much needed uniqueness, adaptability, viability beyond Alpha Arty Null-Fleets.

With launchers you will see its usage increase in High,Low And Null. It will become a great Bearing platform in Amarr/Sansha space.

It will see greater use in FW and Lowsec piracy.

It will provide the Minmatar race a 2nd T2 launcher platform, cause while youve given them Breacher-Talwar-Bellicose-ScyFl-Cyclone-Typhoon, only ONE T2 option exists i.e. Claymore.

Please - save the Munnin - give it dual bonus. Stop making it a bloated Rupture. The buff to speed is so out of place and does NOTHING to increase its attractiveness.

this would be pretty cool if they did this to the munnin

Minmatar Cruiser bonuses (per skill level):
10% bonus to Medium Projectile Turret damage
10% bonus to Medium Projectile Turret falloff

Heavy Assault Cruisers bonuses (per skill level):
10% bonus to Medium Projectile Turret optimal range
7.5% bonus to Medium Projectile Turret tracking speed

slots:
5 high
4 mid
6 low

The Muninn and Eagle both suffer from the same basic problem: they are evidently supposed to be "sniper" cruisers, but there just isn't really much reason to ever snipe in a cruiser. An attack battlecruiser hits harder from further, and at snipe ranges the sig/tracking advantages of medium turrets vs large are basically irrelevant.

I don't know what the solution is, but it really feels like both of these ships are trying to fill a niche that just doesn't exist.

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You didn't say their DPS would go down so I have to assume it would stay the same.[/quote]

Valid I did not state that either way.