Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Bluntly, I'm not the one that created teams, CCP is. Your entire argument is a proposition for removing teams entirely and has no bearing on the skill proposed. As I assume teams are here to stay, a 10%/level team efficiency bonus wouldn't even bump a weak team past the values provided by stronger teams within the natural variation already present in team bonus %'s.

That said, it might be interesting to make the bonus a flat increase rather than a % based one; say, 0.1% improvement to base team bonus values per level. This would have the effect of improving weaker teams marginally more than already strong teams, which would in fact serve as a relief valve on player swarming as you could eventually benefit more from weaker/cheaper/"easier to win bids for" teams. Kind of like hyperspatial accelerator mods.

Yep, fair play.

Have you looked at how much the SCI scale has changed since the update today? It looks like the SCI bar is split into 12 steps, (it's probably not I know) the system I manufacture in was step 10 before DT and now it is step 4. However the cost for manufacturing is the same, which means that when systems actually get towards the top end they will be really expensive.

I think this skill has more weight behind it than it did earlier, certainly for me.

I've always found the time reduction skills to be a waste. Say I'm at work for 8 hours and a job takes 8 hours to finish, reudcing the time to 6 hours nets me 0 gain. Unless there is a way to queue up additional jobs I have tradiationally always avoided anything that finishes a job faster as I normally see a 0 gain out of it.

They do give a benefit besides "must train to do;" they increase your chance of invention success.

This one I particularly like, but instead of a new skill I suggest this functionality get added to the heavily nerfed and existing "Scientific Networking" skill.

Actually, now that the station slot limitation is removed from game, there is no reason that we can't have a Industrial Science Tycoon akin to market trading path. Given that some ME10 / TE20 are going to take an (A)eon of time, there might now be need or use of, say 30+ jobs. No idea what implications that would have for the researched BPO market or invention routines. This would likely however nerf the usefulness of otherwise low-skill research alts.


I'm not a fan of adding dozens of skills that simply 'specialize, specialize, specialize' every specialization under the EVE sun. When considering the invention and skill plan for bonuses it would be reasonable that a toon trained to USE a [ fill in blank ] on the field in PVE/PVP situation would have an understanding of its use. Consider then the regular skills influences in a positive towards industrial ends in the form of an 'Advance Design Templating' skill that factors both sides of the game.

Advanced Contracting, So I can make more than 21 contracts to sell everything I have built!

I don't want advanced Industry skills. I want accountability and visibility in industry.

You build it, you put your name on it or in the case of EVE your corporation name. Not only does this allow the players to boycott corporate Industry it shows where there are monopolies in industry. One could argue it's an opportunity for epeen too. Space Mermaids becomes known for Prophecy Hulls or more realistic, a Goon corp becomes noted for Archon hulls. It also allows us to prove or disprove myths of how noob corps are the Industrial pulse.

might i suggest a sticky for this topic?

or maybe a skill that could increase the ability of the teams?