Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Specialist Recovery - 10% per level recovery of input materials when cancelling a job.

Encryption Specialist - 2% per level improved chance of invention.

Corporate Specialist - 10% per level increase in POS ME savings (2% -> 3% @ Level V)

Footprint Reduction: x% decrease in job weight when determining your system's industrial indexes.

If that makes any sense.

"More jobs" is obvious. A somewhat different way of doing that is to have a skill that allows me to have more jobs in the queue, even though I am limited to 11 that are currently active. Think of the skill queue: I can have a dozen or more skills queued up, even though I can only train one at a time. How about having industry jobs the same way? A skill that lets me queue up more than I can have running. As soon as a job finishes, the next drops down out of the queue and begins.

This also makes the TE skill more useful.

Another idea: At one time having multiple labs at a POS was going to giver a cost reduction. CCP took that away, with the result that a small POS is all you need. There is little advantage to using a medium or a large, at east in terms of the cost of doing industry. (Defense... that is another story).

How about a skill that give a small cost bonus when using the larger POSes? The bonus has to be small to avoid the "you must have it to be relevant" issue.

I'm thinking that what we should have is a 1% bonus at a small POS, 2% at a medium, 3% at a large, and 4% at a player owned station, once you have fully trained this skill. With no skill: 1%, 1.5%, 2% and 2.5%.

In all cases the cost reduction would be either an ME bonus, or a larger percentage of the workforce cost.

3%/level reduction in what? Fees? Taxes? Materials?

Since the skill would be useless on taxes, it should be applied to fees.

I was very happy to get 1% TE bonus per level, 3% is going to be ridiculously great. More skills past that? Might allow consolidation of industrial alts...

Well, that's surprising.

That's actually pretty good.

Have you been into the Brennivín?


* Team pay reduction.
* NPC tax reduction.
* X% chance per level of creating a BPC with extra runs, one per level. [Example: at level 3, chance for 1 to 3 extra runs.]

I'm kind of on-the-fence about additional slots. It is currently a limiting factor, and I'm concerned what might happen if that limit is removed. Though I'd like to be an Industry Tycoon.

I really like the idea of being able to queue jobs, so that the TE becomes more relevant (not saying it is irrelevant, far from it).

I also agree with people saying that any skill that directly reduces costs (as opposed to TE reducing the cost by shortening the job's duration) would be a step back to the old system. Please don't add any of those.

Skills to optimize team usage would be nice, but again, those would most likely end up being "must haves", so they would also be a step back.

The specializing skills are already in the games (frigate construction, etc). It would be nice if those gave a 2% per level time reduction to all relevant items (in this case, all frigates, not only t2 frigates). The same could be done to the datacore skills, but maybe they already are useful enough as they are. So skills like "Mining laser production", simply granting 2% time reduction per level to all mining lasers could be nice. The categories already exist, thanks to team specialisations.

Then there is a wild idea : a skill that reduces the volume of produced items by "some percentage that doesn't bring mineral compression back". Mostly thinking about capital parts here, as they are a pain to move anywhere but in highsec, where you can use freighters. Since this would interfere with the market needing all items of a type to be identical (packaged) this could come with a new state for an item ("sealed" ?) from which you could assemble or repackage it to use it or put it on the market.

I guess the Idea here is to have something that's going to have some effect that isn't "mandatory" like Material Efficiency was right?

How about something this.

-Self Sufficient: Reduce the impact your jobs have on the system by 5%

This will be nice for Null Sec where you may be limited on building locations. It doesn't impact you directly, but it does impact the people you play with.

So with everyone at level 5 (make it high multiplier, 10x?) the system can utilize 1/3 more people than a system with everyone at level 0 for the same price.

It's not a mandatory skill like Material Efficiency 5 (don't need to wait for it to start building things) And it makes for a happy neighborhood.

Brilliant idea

Thank ya sir!

Maybe if they like this idea they'll take some of my other ideas more seriously. :)

I'm always thinking about how to benefit everyone the most with the least amount of over-impact on everything as a whole.
I put a lot of pride in my ability to come up with these "everybody wins" type of ideas/scenarios.