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Has suicide ganking become a problem? Empty freighters being ganked.

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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#2201 - 2014-07-23 16:06:19 UTC
Bethan Le Troix wrote:


Erm. Before the recent changes to mining barges & exhumers can flipping was alive and kicking. A lot of Procurers were using the can-flipping method especially in asteroid belts but maybe not in ice anomalies. I don't patrol ice anomalies so I don't know about them. Of course I am talking about ISBoxers corporations here as they have so many miners they find jet-canning easier.

Ah um. I may have crossed purposes as you probably mean swapping the ore into YOUR jetcan to seek an engagement. I was thinking of just emptying two jetcans at a time into a T1 ore transporter. Nereus is it ? I forget. Anyway that was fairly profitable as well as being a good way to control excessive mining before the latest mining vessel update.


I think its Crimewatch being introduced you are thinking of, rather than the mining ship buffs

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Galaxy Pig
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#2202 - 2014-07-24 16:37:46 UTC
A moment of silence for can-flipping, one of my favorite occupations as a noob.

It was great, I felt really powerful and awesome springing the trap on other ignorant noobs, and when I got into my first t2 and started doing it in a manticore! Ahh! So much fun was had, it was an emergent, pvp activity that was accessible to new players with minimal in-game social resources like me, and they killed it.

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Prt Scr
569th Freelancers
#2203 - 2014-07-24 22:27:37 UTC
admiral root wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Cancel Align NOW wrote:

Edit: Ugh I'm being baited here ain't here.


Also yes.


Not intentionally, which is why I stopped when I realised you weren't catching my sarcasm.


I didn't have my glasses on, I thought you typed 'clutching my scr*tum'.........coffee sprayed all over the screen and keyboard

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Warmonger Murderalt
Shady Business Inc.
#2204 - 2014-07-24 22:40:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Warmonger Murderalt
Meh. Just throwing some more tears on the threadnaught to feed the crows.

Main was ganked. Double bulkheaded freighter, carrying a billion with nothing dropped. Killmail from the day the launcher showed the warning shows two CODE members doing 18k damage each with Hammerhead I's outstripping damage from their cohorts using t2 neutron blasters, and too few pilots for it to otherwise succeed. Ticket says that the logs show no one using drones and that killmail must be display bugged.

So I went to quit industry, when I realized that with the past two expansions being mostly industry, there's nothing left I want to do. Between one main and two alts I've done everything except titans and wormholes. No content left. So I've canceled subscription and will use the remaining 77 days as an off grid booster for some friends at which point I'll sell off everything valuable including the main, transfer the isk to them, and biomass the two alts who have served their purpose.

I leave the rest to you gentlemen. Enjoy the profits (tears included). You've earned them.
Arkady Romanov
Whole Squid
#2205 - 2014-07-24 23:22:10 UTC
Coincidentally, I may be in the market for an industry character. If you really are selling, drop me a mail and maybe we can do a deal.

Whole Squid: Get Inked.
Tauranon
Weeesearch
CAStabouts
#2206 - 2014-07-25 01:22:30 UTC
Warmonger Murderalt wrote:
Meh. Just throwing some more tears on the threadnaught to feed the crows.

Main was ganked. Double bulkheaded freighter, carrying a billion with nothing dropped. Killmail from the day the launcher showed the warning shows two CODE members doing 18k damage each with Hammerhead I's outstripping damage from their cohorts using t2 neutron blasters, and too few pilots for it to otherwise succeed. Ticket says that the logs show no one using drones and that killmail must be display bugged.

So I went to quit industry, when I realized that with the past two expansions being mostly industry, there's nothing left I want to do. Between one main and two alts I've done everything except titans and wormholes. No content left. So I've canceled subscription and will use the remaining 77 days as an off grid booster for some friends at which point I'll sell off everything valuable including the main, transfer the isk to them, and biomass the two alts who have served their purpose.

I leave the rest to you gentlemen. Enjoy the profits (tears included). You've earned them.


18k isn't at all an unbelievable figure for a bulkhead (unresisting) freighter gank, using a brutix with blasters and 5 drones, and as far as I knew it can be a bit random about which weapon type gets shown on a killmail.
Christopher Mabata
Northern Accounts and Systems
#2207 - 2014-07-25 01:41:05 UTC
Galaxy Pig wrote:
A moment of silence for can-flipping, one of my favorite occupations as a noob.

It was great, I felt really powerful and awesome springing the trap on other ignorant noobs, and when I got into my first t2 and started doing it in a manticore! Ahh! So much fun was had, it was an emergent, pvp activity that was accessible to new players with minimal in-game social resources like me, and they killed it.



I remember the good old days too, sometimes i wish you would see more mining machariels and Rokh's out an about, antitanked and ripe for the picking too but can flipping will forever hold a special place in my heart. Of course its fun now too since they take shiny stuff into the belts to protect these "Innocent Miners" and bait games provide nice killmails

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Serene Repose
#2208 - 2014-07-25 07:58:12 UTC
I can't believe this thread has more than two thousand posts at this point. I think you ALL need to back away from the computers and find the closest exit. For half the planet it's summertime. Go outside. Get some sun. Go swimming. (Learn to swim.) Barbecue...ANYTHING, just LET THIS THREAD DIE.

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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#2209 - 2014-07-25 08:23:21 UTC
Warmonger Murderalt wrote:
Meh. Just throwing some more tears on the threadnaught to feed the crows.

Main was ganked. Double bulkheaded freighter, carrying a billion with nothing dropped. Killmail from the day the launcher showed the warning shows two CODE members doing 18k damage each with Hammerhead I's outstripping damage from their cohorts using t2 neutron blasters, and too few pilots for it to otherwise succeed. Ticket says that the logs show no one using drones and that killmail must be display bugged.

So I went to quit industry, when I realized that with the past two expansions being mostly industry, there's nothing left I want to do. Between one main and two alts I've done everything except titans and wormholes. No content left. So I've canceled subscription and will use the remaining 77 days as an off grid booster for some friends at which point I'll sell off everything valuable including the main, transfer the isk to them, and biomass the two alts who have served their purpose.

I leave the rest to you gentlemen. Enjoy the profits (tears included). You've earned them.


Adapt or... oh, you're already dead.

Ah well.

*pokes corpse with stick*

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Galaxy Pig
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#2210 - 2014-07-27 22:43:01 UTC
Moment if silence over, you guys. This thread still has life in it, I just know it! :D

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Sibyyl
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#2211 - 2014-07-27 23:23:24 UTC
Why does the OP have a thread title Most efficient orca ganking crew for 0.5 in C&P?

Is this entire threadnaught an elaborate troll? Has the OP changed her mind and ganking her comrades now?

OP from the other thread:
Quote:
I'm not part of a massive gank alliance like CODE and don't have those numbers of pilots available to me. I don't know the DPS numbers on T3 BC like Talos. I need specific numbers or the gank can fail.

Joffy Aulx-Gao for CSM. Fix links and OGB. Ban stabs from plexes. Fulfill karmic justice.
Noragli
Doomheim
#2212 - 2014-07-28 12:55:48 UTC
Sibyyl wrote:
Why does the OP have a thread title Most efficient orca ganking crew for 0.5 in C&P?

Is this entire threadnaught an elaborate troll? Has the OP changed her mind and ganking her comrades now?

OP from the other thread:
Quote:
I'm not part of a massive gank alliance like CODE and don't have those numbers of pilots available to me. I don't know the DPS numbers on T3 BC like Talos. I need specific numbers or the gank can fail.


Because I posted this thread and my opinion on the state of ganking does not mean I am not allowed to gank an Orca.
Sibyyl
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#2213 - 2014-07-28 13:09:25 UTC
Noragli wrote:
Because I posted this thread and my opinion on the state of ganking does not mean I am not allowed to gank an Orca.

You're allowed to do anything you want within the operating rules of the sandbox.

However, it does seem hypocritical for you to want to gank another player's ship while simultaneously

(1) creating a complaint thread about being ganked yourself (or your friends, or whoever), and
(2) seeking out advice from the very people you have created this thread as a complaint against.

Joffy Aulx-Gao for CSM. Fix links and OGB. Ban stabs from plexes. Fulfill karmic justice.
Christina Project
Screaming Head in a Box.
#2214 - 2014-07-28 13:23:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Christina Project
Sibyyl wrote:
Noragli wrote:
Because I posted this thread and my opinion on the state of ganking does not mean I am not allowed to gank an Orca.

You're allowed to do anything you want within the operating rules of the sandbox.

However, it does seem hypocritical for you to want to gank another player's ship while simultaneously

(1) creating a complaint thread about being ganked yourself (or your friends, or whoever), and
(2) seeking out advice from the very people you have created this thread as a complaint against.

Oh I see you caught up on it too.

Agenda threads everywhere to pretend relevance,
intel gathering,
public manipulation,
creating of opinions and to ruin it for everyone in the long run.

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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Doomheim
#2215 - 2014-07-28 14:59:12 UTC

The Ganking Avoidance Bible

Let there be no more excuses or cries for nerfs driven by loss to ganking. For as the LORD said, "If thy rush into the spinning blades of a lawnmower, dost thou not expect to have thy pee-pee lopped off and eaten by squirrels as it doth lay on the ground beneath?"

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Would you like to know more?
Velicitia
XS Tech
#2216 - 2014-07-28 15:08:20 UTC
Sibyyl wrote:
Noragli wrote:
Because I posted this thread and my opinion on the state of ganking does not mean I am not allowed to gank an Orca.

You're allowed to do anything you want within the operating rules of the sandbox.

However, it does seem hypocritical for you to want to gank another player's ship while simultaneously

(1) creating a complaint thread about being ganked yourself (or your friends, or whoever), and
(2) seeking out advice from the very people you have created this thread as a complaint against.

(3) thinly veiled attempt at trying to learn how to tank an Orca maybe?

(am I doing this right?Blink)

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Noragli
Doomheim
#2217 - 2014-07-28 15:52:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Noragli
Sibyyl wrote:
Noragli wrote:
Because I posted this thread and my opinion on the state of ganking does not mean I am not allowed to gank an Orca.

You're allowed to do anything you want within the operating rules of the sandbox.

However, it does seem hypocritical for you to want to gank another player's ship while simultaneously

(1) creating a complaint thread about being ganked yourself (or your friends, or whoever), and
(2) seeking out advice from the very people you have created this thread as a complaint against.


It's not hypocritical. A one off gank of an Orca is vastly difference than a large group of organised players who play the game solely for the purpose of ganking as many ships as they can, even when there is no profit to be had. Empty freighters, even when tanked, are sometimes killed just because they can (proof that ganking is too easy or that the punishment is not severe enough) It's not specifically ganking by itself that is the problem, it's that people are now taking it too far and efforts should be made to curb that behaviour.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#2218 - 2014-07-28 16:06:16 UTC
Noragli wrote:
Sibyyl wrote:
Noragli wrote:
Because I posted this thread and my opinion on the state of ganking does not mean I am not allowed to gank an Orca.

You're allowed to do anything you want within the operating rules of the sandbox.

However, it does seem hypocritical for you to want to gank another player's ship while simultaneously

(1) creating a complaint thread about being ganked yourself (or your friends, or whoever), and
(2) seeking out advice from the very people you have created this thread as a complaint against.


It's not hypocritical. A one off gank of an Orca is vastly difference than a large group of organised players who play the game solely for the purpose of ganking as many ships as they can, even when there is no profit to be had. Empty freighters, even when tanked, are sometimes killed just because they can (proof that ganking is too easy or that the punishment is not severe enough) It's not specifically ganking by itself that is the problem, it's that people are now taking it too far and efforts should be made to curb that behaviour.


So you want to nerf a profession into the ground because there is a less than 1% chance you will get ganked...
Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2219 - 2014-07-28 16:07:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Gully Alex Foyle
Noragli wrote:
Sibyyl wrote:
Noragli wrote:
Because I posted this thread and my opinion on the state of ganking does not mean I am not allowed to gank an Orca.

You're allowed to do anything you want within the operating rules of the sandbox.

However, it does seem hypocritical for you to want to gank another player's ship while simultaneously

(1) creating a complaint thread about being ganked yourself (or your friends, or whoever), and
(2) seeking out advice from the very people you have created this thread as a complaint against.


It's not hypocritical. A one off gank of an Orca is vastly difference than a large group of organised players who play the game solely for the purpose of ganking as many ships as they can, even when there is no profit to be had. Empty freighters, even when tanked, are sometimes killed just because they can (proof that ganking is too easy or that the punishment is not severe enough) It's not specifically ganking by itself that is the problem, it's that people are now taking it too far and efforts should be made to curb that behaviour.
Then you should lead by example. Don't gank those whales, save them!

You're so mean I feel upset. Please stop posting before you harass somebody.

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Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#2220 - 2014-07-28 16:57:55 UTC
Noragli wrote:
It's not specifically ganking by itself that is the problem, it's that people are now taking it too far and efforts should be made to curb that behaviour.

because