Jita Park Speakers Corner

This doesn't even make sense.

Then you are not communicating with sufficient clarity or lack a point.

Now I know you are wrong and just [....]

Better and shorter

Jenshae Chiroptera nods sagely.

Yes, must try harder.

Ok we're going to have a little fun here
Two people have just started playing eve. They've gone through the tutorial, and have started doing L1 missions. Both are in the recruitment channel because running around solo is a bit overwhelming while at the same time kinda dull. One person gets recruited by a nullsec alliance, the other by a high sec mission corp.

Nullsec boy pods out and joins his new alliance, hes given a training plan for his alliance's fleet doctrine, has a few million isk thrown at him, some free frigates, some salvaging destroyers and he's on his way. During his first week he goes along on a strat op. 500 people show up for this fleet and an epic battle takes place as his alliance attempts to take a system from their enemies. Nullboy manages to tackle a few battleships and somehow survive when enemy caps jump in. Nullboy tackles a carrier as allied caps jump in as well, the enemy runs, all except Nullboy's carrier, it dies and nullboy is the hero of the day. Cheering and forum circle jerking abound. He grinds through skills, getting to fly bigger and better ships, and is provided with good fits for both fleet pvp, solo pvp, and pve. He pulls in isk through belt ratting, he hears alliance mates complain that a certain item they need all the time isnt on the market in sufficient quantity when they need it, and they're sick of importing a few at a time when they run out, he hires an alliance jf pilot to haul out a crap load of it and it sells like hotcakes. He now has isk to buy anything he needs, good friends to hang out with, skill and knowledge to fly whatever he wants, and the knowledge that he is important to a large community.

Highboy meets up with his new corp mates after flying 30 jumps to their area of Highsec. He does missions progressing through the levels, training random skills he thinks he might need, buying what he can with bounties, mission rewards, and selling LP crap. He flies L4s over and over, usually alone, sometimes with a corp mate. Eventually he will have billions of isk. Whee.

Which one is more likely to stay with EVE in the long term. The guy who grinds missions and gets rich, but is pretty much playing solo? Or the guy who participates in a large community, that participates in epic battles and can change the face of the game universe? I'd say Nullboy is sticking around for years to come.

One day, we will have the stats and it will turn out that null sec population is just 10% of game.

lol wow

I must take your post with a pinch of salt. Fatal Ascension recently lost corporations because Goons denied them spoils of war. If -FA- will go that far to make Goons happy, a post is just dust in the wind.

My corp as an example, we have been war dec'ed a number of times and we lost as much as 50% of our pilots to them. However, we developed a strong core, that are seasoned in dying and fighting against larger fleets in guerrila tactics. Not only that but we split into two corps, one full of miners and the other full of PvP interested pilots. From there we made an alliance. Now we have focus and are doing even better.

If it were not for those war dec's we would not be progressing. If it were not for the war dec's we would not have rid of ourselves of the weak links in the corp chain.

Sounds like it is working perfectly to me.

So your 15$ or 30$ or even 45$ is worth more than say mine because you choose to play in null-sec? What utter BS. My money is worth the same as yours and just because we play in different areas of the game does not mean one is more important than another. This idea that null-sec is the game of EVE is also BS. Most people that play EVE never go into null-sec, let alone low-sec. CCP's own data shows this. That doesn't mean CCP should concentrate on making high-sec the game of EVE...it just means their are gamers that play EVE differently than those that chose to play in null-sec. Your money does not carry more weight than my just because of where you play in the game of EVE - period!

It does hold some purpose, it points to your possible bias.

Check the histories of the corps in this alliance. I am sure that after helping get a region of space they were simply not happy to enjoy it and felt they must leave to struggle as a re-formed alliance?
Ask around, I would like to hear from -FA- perspective on why they left. Could be interesting.


I agree and think that high sec should have a region between and including Jita and Amarr, where it is all 1.0 space and even more care-bear than regular space. No tolerance of war declarations and no tolerance of remote repairing from outside the fleet. This would save CCP many subscriptions.
Drawback to living there? You can still be suicide ganked and resources such as belts will be severely depleted. Your corp will be starved out to other space.