EVE General Discussion

The people who do the bitching won't be happy until there is a zero suicide gank rate, because they think highsec should be a fluffy place, with no sharp objects or risk.

To the underlined:

My guess is that CCP would double it's subscriber base in the first month.

I personally hate the thought of a change like that, but it's gold to a game company (in the short term) when they make a fluffy little play area for people to use as a chat room with space ships as a background.

Mr Epeen

I honestly don't think so. The reason for my doubt is that an "instant gratification with no risk of severe loss" place already exists. It's called Singularity, and we've all seen how little it's used. I am honestly starting to come to the conclusion that people ***** about this particular topic just for the sake of bitching.

I am almost to the point of supporting something like Mittens' noob zone idea, but one that allows everyone in. Once you're in fluffy bear land, you and your assets cease to exist to the rest of New Eden, and any skill training that occurs or assets acquired in there are lost upon leaving. They want a single player game? Let them have it, at least long enough to realize just how boring and miserable and experience it would be. By single player, I mean truly single player. No one to buy the crap that they are uselessly farming for, no one to gank them, no one to "grief" them, etc. I feel like they may need this kind of system shock to realize that the future they are aiming for is complete ****.

You are advocating for EVE to turn into this:
Immersion breaking farming in ESO

Do you not see that?

Not really. If there's only a small number of freighter pilots doing a lot of trips/jumps then that's whats relevant to the number of freighters being popped. Bear in mind that the number of jumps your average courier would need to recoup the cost of a lost freighter is seriously substantial.



Seriously? 'We assume' that 2 year old data is still true because CCP haven't specifically said it isn't?

This is the part where you are free to supply your own up to date Data.

Wait, what do you mean you don't have any Data (dated or otherwise)? How did you come to your conclusions then?

Saw problem. fixed.

That would be quite the interesting idea, honestly. Give the "PVE at any cost" people a little flag they can set. In exchange for setting the flag, everything about that account just stops. No ISK generation, no SP, no seeing other ships in space, no chat (or maybe just one huge global room), nothing. They can just get an arbitrary "score", rather than ISK or SP. They can use the "score" to buy pretend ammo, equipment, and stuff from NPC vendors. NPC sold items, of course, costing more than what they buy the items back for.

Then, the PVE at any cost get their wish, they can't interact with EVE in any way shape or form. Still pay sub fees, of course.

I really wonder just how long they'd last like that.

You are setting up a false dichotomy. Do you not see that?

EVE and ESO can both be terrible for different reasons! Likewise, you can improve EVE without turning it into ESO.

Don't worry. Once Star Citizen is release in like 20 years & kind of works all the bads will flock to that game, although they might come back once they find out that half of the development team are Goons who wasted all of their money on stuff.