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Has suicide ganking become a problem? Empty freighters being ganked.

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Clara Pond
Never Not Snazzy
#801 - 2014-06-23 16:16:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Clara Pond
I recently took a community college course in haiku writing. My best one so far:

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poor poor poor poor poor poor poor
unlicensed freighters
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#802 - 2014-06-23 16:21:13 UTC
You know what Catalysts are good for other than ganking?

Planking. I wanna see pics of planking Catalysts. Most creative wins 100mil isk from me.

Also, since we're doing poetry...

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Nulsec is blue,
If you are lucky,
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#803 - 2014-06-23 17:45:13 UTC
Naked Swamp Parties is the normal state of affairs at the Glastonbury Festival.

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De'Veldrin
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#804 - 2014-06-23 17:46:14 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Naked Swamp Parties is the normal state of affairs at the Glastonbury Festival.


I'm curious to know why the swamp is naked.

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#805 - 2014-06-23 17:55:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
De'Veldrin wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Naked Swamp Parties is the normal state of affairs at the Glastonbury Festival.


I'm curious to know why the swamp is naked.
It got podded Roll

Seriously though, the Glastonbury Festival appears to attract torrential rain every other year.

It's been a swamp every time I've attended, and until the Plod, Police for you foriegners P, stop them there's usually a a fair few drunk or otherwise intoxicated people cavorting naked in the mud.

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Goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
#806 - 2014-06-23 19:57:07 UTC
Both of you, really step back It's a game
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Apparently it is not possible to PvP for fun.

Is it really PVP when your shooting unarmed, indefensible ships. Or is the PVP you are referring to only in the psychological context such as.
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pushing people to their psychological breaking point, and then pretending they just snapped out of the blue for no reason

Either way it seems odd that you would take a firm position as the Villain to some and Hero to others, and then get so bent out of shape when one group starts throwing rotten tomatoes.

Get some perspective, and try to remember IT'S A GAME.

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Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#807 - 2014-06-23 20:02:41 UTC
Goldiiee wrote:
Both of you, really step back It's a game
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Apparently it is not possible to PvP for fun.

Is it really PVP when your shooting unarmed, indefensible ships. Or is the PVP you are referring to only in the psychological context such as.
Quote:
pushing people to their psychological breaking point, and then pretending they just snapped out of the blue for no reason

Either way it seems odd that you would take a firm position as the Villain to some and Hero to others, and then get so bent out of shape when one group starts throwing rotten tomatoes.

Get some perspective, and try to remember IT'S A GAME.



Yep, it's pvp no matter what the other party does. EVE features NON-CONSENSUAL PVP and has since it was a 1997 gleam in some Icelandic Freak's Eye. If a person doesn't like that, EVE is a bad choice in game.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#808 - 2014-06-23 20:02:42 UTC
Goldiiee wrote:

Is it really PVP when your shooting unarmed, indefensible ships.



Yes it is.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#809 - 2014-06-23 20:09:18 UTC
Goldiiee wrote:

Is it really PVP when your shooting unarmed, indefensible ships.


Yes. Unless those ships are being controlled by the game's AI. PvP stands for "player vs player", there is nothing in that acronym about honorable space bushido duels.

Unwillingness to properly defend yourself does not somehow disqualify you as being a player. And if it does, then the New Order is right about bot aspirants.

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One of ours, ten of theirs.

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loyalanon
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#810 - 2014-06-23 20:10:47 UTC
Is this thread still going.

OP success at 50 pages of tears, I have more empty freighters to gank! Lets get this to 50 pages of tears so loyalanon can stop his campaign of terror.
Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#811 - 2014-06-23 20:18:28 UTC
Goldiiee wrote:
Is it really PVP when your shooting unarmed, indefensible ships.
Same as overwhelming your opponent with a larger number of ships, or much stronger ships. Which kind of happens everyday in EVE.


There are only two kinds of EVE PVP imo:

1) even (-ish) fights, which occur only when one or both parties are actively seeking a challenge (and actively taking real risks)

2) hunter/prey situations, which occur when a much stronger party 'catches' the weaker one (that would rather not fight in that situation)


#2 is more common. Doesn't matter much if the 'weak' party has guns or not.

Also, any active PVP corp that has 90%+ ISK efficiency is doing #2 more often than #1.

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#812 - 2014-06-23 20:20:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Goldiiee wrote:
Is it really PVP when your shooting unarmed, indefensible ships. Or is the PVP you are referring to only in the psychological context such as.
Yes it is PvP, by virtue of your opponent being another player. It may be one sided PvP because the victim decided to go AFK or not take advantage of the choices available to them, but it's still PvP

Being able to defend your ship consists of more than whether or not it can fit weapons, using your brain is your best defence.

Freighter Jockeys now have the ability to change the stats of their ships, they can choose to fit for extra cargo and less tank, or more tank and less cargo. They can choose to pack their ship full of shiny stuff or not, thay can choose to not be afk, if they find hauling boring they can choose to let others do it for them, they can choose to utilise scouts, or in-corp support such as a friend in a frigate that has web bonus's, and webs.

Miners have had their ships buffed considerably, they too have a choice, better yield or more survivability, in fact the Procurer and Skiff are downright scary and are more than capable of PvP. They too can choose to tank their ships or not, and whether or not to be afk.

As advertised by CCP in pretty much all of their advertising, the choices you make and the actions you take have consequences. Welcome to a single shard PvP MMO, working as intended.

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Either way it seems odd that you would take a firm position as the Villain to some and Hero to others, and then get so bent out of shape when one group starts throwing rotten tomatoes.
There is no excuse for some of the vile things that are said by some people after their spaceship explodes.

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Get some perspective, and try to remember IT'S A GAME.
Agreed, some people do need to get some perspective and remember that it's a game

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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#813 - 2014-06-23 20:21:10 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Grobalobobob Bob wrote:
IT IS BECAUSE A WIZARD DID IT, ergo, it's WoW in space. Twisted


There's no wizards in WoW


Shamans and mages don't count? Blink

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#814 - 2014-06-23 20:24:40 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Grobalobobob Bob wrote:
IT IS BECAUSE A WIZARD DID IT, ergo, it's WoW in space. Twisted


There's no wizards in WoW


Shamans and mages don't count? Blink
A shaman is a healer and spiritual advisor, basically a cross between a priest and a doctor.

Mages are magicians or learned persons. P

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#815 - 2014-06-23 20:28:18 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Grobalobobob Bob wrote:
IT IS BECAUSE A WIZARD DID IT, ergo, it's WoW in space. Twisted


There's no wizards in WoW


Shamans and mages don't count? Blink
A shaman is a healer and spiritual advisor, basically a cross between a priest and a doctor.

Mages are magicians or learned persons. P


"A mage is like a wizard, only not as cool." -Cartman
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#816 - 2014-06-23 20:29:17 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Grobalobobob Bob wrote:
IT IS BECAUSE A WIZARD DID IT, ergo, it's WoW in space. Twisted


There's no wizards in WoW


Shamans and mages don't count? Blink


Nope.

A Wizard's staff has a knob on the end

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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#817 - 2014-06-23 20:30:10 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Grobalobobob Bob wrote:
IT IS BECAUSE A WIZARD DID IT, ergo, it's WoW in space. Twisted


There's no wizards in WoW


Shamans and mages don't count? Blink
A shaman is a healer and spiritual advisor, basically a cross between a priest and a doctor.

Mages are magicians or learned persons. P


Shamans could spec for DPS you know?

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#818 - 2014-06-23 20:36:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Ramona McCandless wrote:

Nope.

A Wizard's staff has a knob on the end
Granny Weatherwax > any Wizard, apart from Rincewind, because of his DPS support, The Luggage.

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Jonah Gravenstein
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#819 - 2014-06-23 20:40:10 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Shamans could spec for DPS you know?
Noted, I didn't know that. I've played WoW for all of about 4 hours, I was an MMO virgin when I discovered Eve, it ruined the rest of the MMO genre for me.

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#820 - 2014-06-23 21:07:19 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD BH Supogo
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