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Existing BPCs should be converted in a sensible way, yes.



I believe the only things we're changing max runs on are T1 blueprints, and given that max runs are no longer required for invention, there's no obvious reason to give people extra free runs during the transition :)

- Bug noted, thanks
- Show info hasn't been updated yet, expect it to be wrong (like the Gila)
- I don't believe there's any cap there, not sure why that is not working.

Uhm, the BPO shows the numbers above, BUT the new UI shows the correct amount of consumed materials when taking ME into account. So maybe it is down to "show info" giving old info? :)

ME/TE Research Times are extremely wrong, a rank 1 Blueprint currently takes 38 days to fully research, instead of 3. (I also understand what is going wrong, basically you are adding the numbers, both in terms of runs (instead of subtracting them) and in terms of levels (instead of only taking the number for the highest research level), which then produces some extremely big numbers) The research time for ME 0% -> ME 1% or TE 0% -> TE 2% is calculated correctly though and exactly as described in greyscale's draft 4 CSV file, only higher run numbers are broken.

Checks against the account balance are always done against the active corp wallet, even if you are doing personal research.

You can't drag & drop blueprints into the industry window.

For short jobs the countdown is always 00:00:00:00.

Earlier i had the material quote in the show info be off by several percent, now it is showing them correctly. I think it got corrected once i put the blueprint in the industry window itself, which always showed the correct material amounts. (And exactly the same as my software, which has been updated with the announced changes to material amounts, which is nice)

(Given that the show info window has calculated the material quote incorrectly for at least 5 years now, maybe it is a nice tradition to keep )

For many of my component bpos for tech 2 production, they have perfect ME researched levels before the patch, at ME levels between 1, 2, 4, and 8, but after the patch, they do not have perfect ME trained up anymore, and require further research to continue to be optimized.

Is this intended, or a small oversight? It seems like a relatively simple blanket fix to just tech 2 component and capital component bpos to adjust any that are above ME 0 to ME 10 after the patch, instead of doing a case by case. Otherwise, for many producers that have no wasted research on their component sets, we're going to have to research up hundreds of bpos after the patch that are currently perfect.

Correct, show infos are displaying old information. You should use the new industry UI to get the correct updated numbers for now.

We will update the Show Info on SiSi soon(ish).

:)

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Went to see how the changes impacted existing T2 BPO's and it looks really wrong(only checked with an ishtar)?


first screen shot shows : http://i.imgur.com/FUzC34k.jpg
-TL/newPL is showing greater than 10, build time over 40% higher than live(unless t2 production time across the board are being increased)
- verified above with other T2 BPOS such as Berserker II BPO, its build time is under its copy time, seems like TE is on a 1-20 scale and not 1-10? build times are also higher than live.
-Copy time is not 80% less than build time, is greater than build times.
-max copy's is set to one for ships, intentional limit? all t2 module,ammo and drone BPO's are set to 10.

second screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/k9mtAln.jpg
- all material requirement are roughly 50% higher than live, is this related to the 1.5x change, will it apply to BPO's?
- not all materials are represented, nocxium got left out.

Spun up SISI and tried to invent out of a design lab. I wasn't able to select an output, or none came up. Was using 10mn afterburner bpc, as I had some lieing around. All mats in the appropriate slot, and everything blue up to the end. Might just be user error, but if so, the system is pretty non-intuitive.

Past that, I see that having the actual TTM in front of me confirms my maths on the matter. Module TTM is getting a huge shrink. So while the interface changes seem positive and intuitive, the incentive to actually build modules is probably going to disappear!

I really hope you guys will take another look at what you're doing to the amount of work available globally before finalizing the numbers.

Something like multiplying module demand at market (which shouldn't be affected by changes) by the TTM hours. I really don't think it makes sense for my small production corporation to be able to supply all of the adaptive invul II's used in the entire game without breaking a sweat... I think concerns of a labor shortage aren't going to be very well founded, considering that any shortage of labor will pump up the pay-check for builders and create a natural incentive for more to enter the field.

At the very least, please feel open to liberally revisiting TTM and changing it aggressively as needed. Its my opinion that the TTM stat is going to be the most directly linked to the amount of people who use production in New Eden, and that with the Crius changes you've got it tuned down to 3. Pump that sucker up to 11!