Player Features and Ideas Discussion

try a HAC maybe?

I quite like running DED 3/10 anoms in my algos for more of a challenge

Is your client bugged in such a fashion that prevents you from running these missions in whatever ship you like? I run 3s and 4s in an AF for fun.

Run them in low-sec. That will increase your rewards & add challenge.

What you are asking for is for greater rewards for using a cheaper ship... That concept doesn't really make much sense to me... It's less at risk, even if the missions were made slightly more difficult.

As for low sec, using a ship other than a battleship really doesnt have anything to do with PvE. Smaller ships are taken mainly for their PvP ability / escaping other players etc.

The concept that I'm going for is more-so along the lines of: greater investment + greater reward. For example, in order to properly benefit from these missions, you need:
* standing (greater than the 5.0 for 4s)
* SP to be able to pilot different ships well
* isk investment to purchase ammo, several fits, and several ships that would excel in this PvE content
* logistics of getting hulls and ammo to the site / the logistics of moving to a different site

Concerning risk, nowadays with this micro jump drive, you are more at risk of losing your ship in levels 1-3 than level 4s, at least from a rat standpoint. Also, its not like greater rewards + cheaper ship scenario doesnt occur anywhere else in the game. There are many activities in game that offer more of a profit for your time than 4s in cheaper hulls, with relatively limit risk:
* PI
* highsec ganking
* exploration
* trading (no hull needed)




Those are the choices currently for lvl 4 missions in highsec in eve.

The rest of the game is usually risk v reward / investment v reward.
Examples:
* Highsec miner upgrades from retriever to Mackinaw
* A trader invest more isk diversifying their portfolio
* level 5s missions
* PvPers using more expensive stuff to get more kills
* etc

Sry, hindsight 20/20 i prolly should have made a more complete initial post.

At any rate, 5s have some limitations as well. For example, you wouldnt step into a 5 in a frig.

The concept is more about having a... idk. variety pack that players can focus their efforts towards. I enjoy missions + eft warrior stuffs.
I think it would be cool if the game had an agent type that essentially chooses the size of ship for you to use and the players job was to pick the best fit/ship within the constraint to get the job done as quickly and efficiently as possible.

Example:
Agent offers you your first Elite Security Mission. You are limited to using a battlecruiser sized hull.
Do you decide to bring your command ship because you know the mission requires a bit of tank? Or maybe ull be better off jumping in your attack battlecruiser for this one.

Mission complete

Agent offers you your second mission.... you decline cause its against an empire faction and you dont wanna take the hit

Agent offers you your third mission. You are limited to using a frigate.

etc

I see your point. +1

Asked idea is to break a constant of one-ship-through-the-series monologue. For the record, there are examples of ship-switching during mission-blitz-salvage triangle, but they're up to the player and doesn't provide any more entertainment for missioner, more like a burden to get more isk.

What was being suggested is that a number of series which requires you to switch to different types of ships during series. He supports his idea by giving that mission an "elite" status, making it between lvl 4 and 5. A player, who runs level 4 missions should already know how to fly a battleship or t3 cruiser, so they already pass the requirement of using all lower hulls than a battleship.

I liked the idea, but unfortunately, some of players who think EvE is only a PvP arena will jump out on you to say these, in random order:

- Eve is pvp centric.
- Dev time shouldn't be wasted by this.
- (One line/single word/one paragraph of idea quoted) - This is false/shouldn't be exist.
- "No"
- "What you asked is already available in %N feature"
- "PvE is good as it is, no need to introduce another aspect"
- "High-sec content is already %X, it shouldn't be %Y"
- etc.

EVE is a PVP game on all levels in all areas(With the exception of some of those newbie systems, but that's a technicality).

If someone attacks you anywhere in the game you are free to hit them right back how ever the hell you think is appropriate as hard as you want. EVE is fair in that way. Sometimes you don't have the resources or man power to rally an effective response, well tough. N3 couldn't get their US TZ players on. I guess we're just going to have to reimburse everyone for B-R5 and reschedule for a completely fair fight.
Ha,
No.

If you want a game where unlimited interaction between players isn't possible go somewhere else. This is a game that finally embraces the meaning of MMO in MMORPG and arguably does it better than anyone else. I for one (and I can say many others) value this feature more than anything about EVE. No MMO has this much funding, big of a player base, and this extent of gameplay options and player driven and created content.

I don't see why that should change because you can't adapt to the idea EVE is not WoW and doesn't remove PVP or have shards.

You know a Moa can run an L4?

Try doing them in an Astero, it is quite fun and challenging. Some time I do need to try to do a few 3/10s in a Tristan.

Take it from the top, shall we?

* DED sites are designed with the idea that alone, a pilot would use the largest possible ship to complete it efficiently. If you choose to enter it in a smaller ship for the extra challenge, that is your initiative. I have a blast running 3/10's in a Slicer.
* So scan. Or is that going to give you cancer?
* Who needs a reason? It's a video game, not a career.
* Mobile Depot.