Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Dang I was really hoping that would come with Kronos, too =[

This is good to hear. I'm glad that you guys were able to stand your ground on consistency within the API despite the thread's apoplexy.

http://i.imgur.com/N1Gilfv.png

http://wh.pasta.gg/J150020

Didn't want that CSM anyway.

I don't do logon traps (nor does my corp).
I've been in wh-space since Apocrypha dropped.
I, and others, simply disagree with the changes because there is currently no "balance" between hunter/hunted as has been pointed out numerous times.


Perhaps stop being an insulting prick and realize that a disagreement isn't "tears" regardless of what you want the narrative to be.

Disagreement <-- Not tears
"....unsubbing 'x' accounts over blah blah blah" <-- Tears

L2reason

Thank you for allowing this discussion and pretending to listen to our concerns. In the end, even though you chose to do what you were already planning to do anyway, we at least were able to amuse ourselves with ideas to allow a more active approach to obtaining this information.

Thanks again!

Perhaps this might help in future (hopefully not far distant) when CCP gets around to looking at "balance"
System Occupancy Surveillance

Bah, you cleacly never scanned for targets after oddesy, thanks to the instant spawning of sigs, your targets are already inside the posshield before you even can push the d-scan button.
And 95% of the people fully scan their hole before they start anything so no surprising them there.
So the only way to get anyone is getting in there before they wake up.
Now try motivating 20 people after waiting for a week to wait for your targets to get active.... .
This change will make that there will be a lot less of player interaction since the hunters now don't have any chance of catching people.
Seeing most killboards , the big alliances have one big skirmish a month.
With this change ontop of the instant sig thingy there is only 3 ways left to get pvp catching one of the 5% that doesn't scan enough, a big skirmish that looks more like an arranged fight and evictions.
And bait, no one takes bait in w-space unless they are one of the 5%.
So kill will probably be 0.0 roams and scout you instantly blow up.

Mass evictions won't work. You may set the occupants back a little while, prevent them from farming for a night or so, but any intelligent entity logs their caps off in safe spots when they finish for the night. You won't get much for your effort. Meanwhile, you have placed a significant burden on your guys for very little reward, unless the target is a satisfying eviction. Those are rare. A confirmed CCP player eviction would be nice, but it's blindingly obvious they barely know what W-space is let alone live there.

You can still find targets, and you can still get decent fights, but it's not necessarily easy. You have to carefully escalate the fight, not showing too much of your hand before your targets throw more ships at you. Bears and Null groups won't fight. You'll have to catch them by surprise, which will now be virtually impossible compared to the ease in which they can avoid combat. But hunters do still take bait -- we almost always take bait, win or lose -- so if you are careful, you can get a nice fight out of it that isn't always decided before you engage warp.

But on the whole, W-space is now like Nullsec in that it is easier to avoid combat there than it is in Hisec while still doing something useful.

What's next? Supercaps? Constructable star gates? Stations and docking games?

When CCP creates the new region of space watch it end up how they wished wormholes had. Just imagine how redheaded you will feel then.

Oh look, goons, because goons have a valid view of WH space.

You blue doughnut eating bees wouldn't know 'good fights' if it bit you on the arse.