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Beofryn Sedorak
#3781 - 2014-05-01 15:36:53 UTC
Mashie Saldana wrote:
Flamespar wrote:
Latest rumour is that EVE: legion is either dust on PC or a standalone game for WiS.

PC version of Dust according to drunken devs in Iceland.


If you're trolling, I loathe you -.-

If the drunk dev truly exists and made this claim, I hope he wasn't drunk trolling...

I will be very excited if this is true though!
Crasniya
The Aussienauts
#3782 - 2014-05-01 16:16:42 UTC
DUST coming to PC would be a huge mistake. Sure, I'd love to play it on my PC, but it just doesn't make sense for CCP or the DUST community. We'll find out tomorrow though.

Soraya Xel - Council of Planetary Management 1 - soraya@biomassed.net
Kuronaga
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
The Chicken Coop
#3783 - 2014-05-02 00:02:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Kuronaga
Beofryn Sedorak wrote:
Kuronaga wrote:
Mashie Saldana wrote:
Flamespar wrote:
Latest rumour is that EVE: legion is either dust on PC or a standalone game for WiS.

PC version of Dust according to drunken devs in Iceland.



Major mistake if true.

Keyboard and Mouse support is already available, they just need to not be clowns about emulating it and give it raw input. The game would work fine on PS4, it just needs to ditch PS3's hardware limitations.

Secondly, putting it on PC will do nothing for the game as far as population goes. PC audience is always smaller.

All it really CAN do is introduce hackers to the equation. If that happens, I'm out.


On PS3 they're grasping for an entirely new audience. (Console players)

On PC They have an established audience to tap into and then expand upon. (Existing CCP fans)

I read something just yesterday that the PC market is now exceeding the console gaming market. I can't recall where I read it, so if someone else has any insight as to the validity of this claim please share it with us.

As for "All it can do" That's an incredibly short sighted and frankly ignorant statement. Is there greater risk of cheaters on PC? My opinion would be yes. Is that a strong enough reason to NOT come to PC? While it's worth consideration while making the decision, By itself I wouldn't say it's reason enough to not deploy to PC. There are plenty of FPS shooters on PC that are successful despite the risk of cheaters.

As for "[other things] it can do" It can increase the the connectivity between the two community's as you will have a greatly increased number of players that are playing both and we'd likely see a forum section added to the EVE forums for it. Additionally, it would open up greater options for connectivity between the two games. Possibly even the platform to develop WiS on.

As for putting it on the PS4. If it came to PC, that in itself doesn't tell us that they WON'T release to PS4 also, They're already making Valkyrie a multiple platform product and Dust is already on the Unreal engine (easy to port to multiple platforms). Additionally, if they bring it to PC we'll likely see a serious bump in the overall quality of the graphics potential which would also lend itself to the PS4 nicely too.



Don't care.

If they put it on PC the integrity of the games legitimacy becomes compromised. There will be hackers and I will not play it.

It's a F2P game. A hacker risks literally nothing when he decides to be a douche. It would be pure chaos.

I like keyboard and mouse, and I prefer the power of my PC. But not enough to tolerate hackers in a game with more meaning attached to it than a round of counter-strike or battlefield where at the very least decent servers are capable of self-policing.

If you've seen how slow CCP's customer service is for Dust 514, you would know they haven't a chance in hell of keeping up the rampant amount of hacking that will take place.
Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld
#3784 - 2014-05-02 07:29:31 UTC
Kuronaga wrote:
Beofryn Sedorak wrote:
Kuronaga wrote:
Mashie Saldana wrote:
Flamespar wrote:
Latest rumour is that EVE: legion is either dust on PC or a standalone game for WiS.

PC version of Dust according to drunken devs in Iceland.



Major mistake if true.

Keyboard and Mouse support is already available, they just need to not be clowns about emulating it and give it raw input. The game would work fine on PS4, it just needs to ditch PS3's hardware limitations.

Secondly, putting it on PC will do nothing for the game as far as population goes. PC audience is always smaller.

All it really CAN do is introduce hackers to the equation. If that happens, I'm out.


On PS3 they're grasping for an entirely new audience. (Console players)

On PC They have an established audience to tap into and then expand upon. (Existing CCP fans)

I read something just yesterday that the PC market is now exceeding the console gaming market. I can't recall where I read it, so if someone else has any insight as to the validity of this claim please share it with us.

As for "All it can do" That's an incredibly short sighted and frankly ignorant statement. Is there greater risk of cheaters on PC? My opinion would be yes. Is that a strong enough reason to NOT come to PC? While it's worth consideration while making the decision, By itself I wouldn't say it's reason enough to not deploy to PC. There are plenty of FPS shooters on PC that are successful despite the risk of cheaters.

As for "[other things] it can do" It can increase the the connectivity between the two community's as you will have a greatly increased number of players that are playing both and we'd likely see a forum section added to the EVE forums for it. Additionally, it would open up greater options for connectivity between the two games. Possibly even the platform to develop WiS on.

As for putting it on the PS4. If it came to PC, that in itself doesn't tell us that they WON'T release to PS4 also, They're already making Valkyrie a multiple platform product and Dust is already on the Unreal engine (easy to port to multiple platforms). Additionally, if they bring it to PC we'll likely see a serious bump in the overall quality of the graphics potential which would also lend itself to the PS4 nicely too.



Don't care.

If they put it on PC the integrity of the games legitimacy becomes compromised. There will be hackers and I will not play it.

It's a F2P game. A hacker risks literally nothing when he decides to be a douche. It would be pure chaos.

I like keyboard and mouse, and I prefer the power of my PC. But not enough to tolerate hackers in a game with more meaning attached to it than a round of counter-strike or battlefield where at the very least decent servers are capable of self-policing.

If you've seen how slow CCP's customer service is for Dust 514, you would know they haven't a chance in hell of keeping up the rampant amount of hacking that will take place.


Eve is a pc game, and I'm not aware of it being hacked or do you mean something else with the term 'hacked'?

Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction...
Flamespar
WarRavens
#3785 - 2014-05-02 07:37:58 UTC
Little Dragon Khamez wrote:


Eve is a pc game, and I'm not aware of it being hacked or do you mean something else with the term 'hacked'?


I think he's referring to aimbotters, lag switchers, people who modify the game client, or use third party applications to their own advantage.

APB when it was first released is a good example of how cheaters and hackers can ruin a game.
Evelyn Meiyi
Corvidae Trading and Holding
#3786 - 2014-05-02 08:01:44 UTC
Kuronaga wrote:

It's a F2P game. A hacker risks literally nothing when he decides to be a douche. It would be pure chaos.


Except for jail time for violation of 1986's Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, Federal charges under Title II of the Patriot Act, and a few hefty fines if they actually cause damage while in there.
Flamespar
WarRavens
#3787 - 2014-05-02 13:55:59 UTC
So. EVE: Legion is confirmed as Dust on PC (though dust will continue on PS3)

So avatar gameplay on PC in the EVE universe is a reality.

Suck my fat one haters. You lost.

Biomass is that way --->
Beofryn Sedorak
#3788 - 2014-05-02 14:00:57 UTC
Flamespar wrote:
So. EVE: Legion is confirmed as Dust on PC (though dust will continue on PS3)

So avatar gameplay on PC in the EVE universe is a reality.

Suck my fat one haters. You lost.

Biomass is that way --->


#winning
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#3789 - 2014-05-02 14:08:02 UTC
Beofryn Sedorak wrote:
Flamespar wrote:
So. EVE: Legion is confirmed as Dust on PC (though dust will continue on PS3)

So avatar gameplay on PC in the EVE universe is a reality.

Suck my fat one haters. You lost.

Biomass is that way --->


#winning


LMFAO

I didn't want that coffee anyway...


☼

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#3790 - 2014-05-02 14:34:37 UTC
So Project Legion you say?

There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:

Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.
Mashie Saldana
V0LTA
WE FORM V0LTA
#3791 - 2014-05-02 14:44:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Mashie Saldana
Beofryn Sedorak wrote:
Mashie Saldana wrote:
Flamespar wrote:
Latest rumour is that EVE: legion is either dust on PC or a standalone game for WiS.

PC version of Dust according to drunken devs in Iceland.


If you're trolling, I loathe you -.-

If the drunk dev truly exists and made this claim, I hope he wasn't drunk trolling...

I will be very excited if this is true though!

I guess I didn't troll you after all. Blink

Also with the talk about scavenging, maybe we will get a bit of the action from the avatar exploration prototyping they did last year as well.

Now next stop is CCP Presents tomorrow to see how Legion will tie in with EVE and Valkyrie, I hope we can use the same characters in all three games.

How to win EVE
Solecist Project's Alt
Doomheim
#3792 - 2014-05-02 14:52:01 UTC
Prematurely claiming victory is a sign of an inflated ego.

No where is mentioned that this is about WiS,
or that *we* can use *our chars* for this.

We know nothing yet.
Beofryn Sedorak
#3793 - 2014-05-02 15:05:19 UTC
Solecist Project's Alt wrote:
Prematurely claiming victory is a sign of an inflated ego.

No where is mentioned that this is about WiS,
or that *we* can use *our chars* for this.

We know nothing yet.


Many people that want WiS stations are more specifically asking for first person avatar based gaming. Also, When you WALK AROUND IN THE STATION IN DUST you're WALKING IN STATION.

Victory has been achieved. I don't care if I can't use my EVE toon. I hope it will come some day, but I won't be butt hurt if I can't.
Aralyn Cormallen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#3794 - 2014-05-02 15:10:31 UTC
Its a potential bridge for the future. Sure, it ain't WIS right here, right now, but it strikes me as a far better racehorse to saddle your hopes to than the travesty of Incarna.
Anna Karhunen
Inoue INEXP
#3795 - 2014-05-02 15:22:14 UTC
Solecist Project's Alt wrote:
Prematurely claiming victory is a sign of an inflated ego.

No where is mentioned that this is about WiS,
or that *we* can use *our chars* for this.

We know nothing yet.

Ok, ok. BHiS (bunnyhopping in stations) it is then.

As my old maths teacher used to say: "Statistics are like bikinis: It's what they don't show that's interesting". -CCP Aporia
Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld
#3796 - 2014-05-02 16:11:36 UTC
Solecist Project's Alt wrote:
Prematurely claiming victory is a sign of an inflated ego.

No where is mentioned that this is about WiS,
or that *we* can use *our chars* for this.

We know nothing yet.


It's a step closer, so I welcome the step, I agree it isn't victory, but it's a great decision and it will satisfy my needs for quite a while, possibly enough time for CCP to carry on the fine work of bringing EVE up to date.

The two things are not incompatible. I hope Legion is a gem and that CCP pull of an astounding success with it. If I can fight on planets, in space and eventually in stations, what more could I ask for?

Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction...
Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
#3797 - 2014-05-02 16:12:48 UTC
Little Dragon Khamez wrote:
It's a step closer, so I welcome the step, I agree it isn't victory, but it's a great decision and it will satisfy my needs for quite a while, possibly enough time for CCP to carry on the fine work of bringing EVE up to date.

The two things are not incompatible. I hope Legion is a gem and that CCP pull of an astounding success with it. If I can fight on planets, in space and eventually in stations, what more could I ask for?

Indeed... against better judgement, I AM excited for that new project. Lol

"ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!" Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM)
Flamespar
WarRavens
#3798 - 2014-05-02 20:54:45 UTC
With Legion. All the tech for multi avatar environments will be there.

The only down side is that in order to explore that aspect of EVE you will need to download a different game and use a different character. At least it is free to play.

It is only a matter of time until they port some aspects of that to EVE
Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association
#3799 - 2014-05-02 21:10:17 UTC
Frankly, I expect the two to bridge. They keep talking about integrating the games closer.
Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#3800 - 2014-05-02 21:41:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Bagrat Skalski
I am really good with FPS and I am playing primarily on PC so I am very happy. Cool

I was second on our unreal tournament back in the study years, and there was 20 people us there in the tournament, all gamers, I can't wait to taste some of their blood. Twisted

Custom ship skins, character creator style "repaint". Bring it!