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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#41 - 2014-04-17 05:18:17 UTC
Seraph Essael wrote:
Haha aye I knew that much, but I could never understand what the hell they actually are / the use of them anymore... I knew it was based on Latin and what not, but even so when I see these I always thing, must be an easier way that that... But, who am I to argue with the people who make this stuff up Smile Cheers for the post, reading through that thread now.

Oh, yeah, they might not always be entirely intuitive if you haven't studied a lot of languages where they're being used.

Most of the symbols are fairly easy to understand if you've come across a couple of different alphabets, since they've been adopted from languages that use those particular sounds a lot (like the ‘ð’ sound). The real mess usually comes with the myriad of long, short, stressed, half-slurred or otherwise modified vowels — umptyeleven different symbols for a number of different sounds that sound exactly the same to the untrained ear. Lol
Seraph Essael
Air
The Initiative.
#42 - 2014-04-17 05:24:53 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Seraph Essael wrote:
Haha aye I knew that much, but I could never understand what the hell they actually are / the use of them anymore... I knew it was based on Latin and what not, but even so when I see these I always thing, must be an easier way that that... But, who am I to argue with the people who make this stuff up Smile Cheers for the post, reading through that thread now.

Oh, yeah, they might not always be entirely intuitive if you haven't studied a lot of languages where they're being used.

Most of the symbols are fairly easy to understand if you've come across a couple of different alphabets, since they've been adopted from languages that use those particular sounds a lot (like the ‘ð’ sound). The real mess usually comes with the myriad of long, short, stressed, half-slurred or otherwise modified vowels — umptyeleven different symbols for a number of different sounds that sound exactly the same to the untrained ear. Lol


I was reading through that IPA wiki... I think I'll stick to Physics. Far less confusing... And to be honest, possibly less symbols too Lol

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i-AA
Cream Pie Carpet Munchers
#43 - 2014-04-17 12:34:20 UTC
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Arline Kley
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#44 - 2014-04-17 12:49:30 UTC
One ship that regularly gets said "wrong" (in my experience) is the Anathema. I regularly hear it being called Ana-theme-a, which only causes my blood to boil somewhat... Try saying the following aloud using the "Ana-theme-a" :

That is an an anathema to me


Its sounds wrong does it not? It should be A-nath-e-ma; and hell you can swap the e and the a around and it still sounds better than the previous.. thats pretty much my only gripe with people saying ship names really.

Good to know however that the Charon is a hard C.. .

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Lothros Andastar
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#45 - 2014-04-17 13:31:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Lothros Andastar
When people people say keye-mere-ah it infuriates me. It's Key-Mera.

Also when people say Bhaal-gorn as Baggle-Horn.

Or when people ignore the Y and say Mer-Me-Don.
Dalloway Jones
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#46 - 2014-04-17 15:20:48 UTC
Lothros Andastar wrote:
When people people say keye-mere-ah it infuriates me. It's Key-Mera.

Also when people say Bhaal-gorn as Baggle-Horn.

Or when people ignore the Y and say Mer-Me-Don.



You don't pronounce the Y in Myrmidon as a Y and it is pronounced ki-mer-a.
Willmahh
#47 - 2014-04-17 15:48:58 UTC
Inxentas Ultramar wrote:
Abbadon is hebrew: Ǎḇaddōn.

A characal is English, a mammal: kærəkæl

Rokh is a fictional name. Whatever. I say Row-kh.

A Scythe is a tool, also English: saɪð

Out of all four, the Rokh is the only one that actually alows for interpretation or variation. The other 3 are pronounced either correctly or incorrectly.


actually Rokh is a legendary Giant eagle-type bird from mythology and its pronunciation is also either right or wrong.
KIller Wabbit
MEME Thoughts
#48 - 2014-04-17 16:18:50 UTC
Charon -> like Karen
Random McNally
Stay Frosty.
A Band Apart.
#49 - 2014-04-17 16:21:27 UTC
SIM-ih-tar not SKIM-ih-tar.

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Cristl
#50 - 2014-04-17 16:50:48 UTC
I think most of these are unambiguous really, the exception being the Norse ones like Nidhoggur (I've never heard the d pronounced with a "these" sound, but that crossed partial derivative symbol would indicate that sound, and it is certainly an icelandic letter/sound. "Nithugger". Hmm, sounds weird to me.

Why is Machariel never in these lists, a word which I really don't know how to pronounce. The word looks like a Hebrew transliteration to me, so should the ch be pronounced like the gutteral scottish 'loch', or is it plain old "Mackariel"?
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#51 - 2014-04-17 17:00:04 UTC
Arline Kley wrote:
Good to know however that the Charon is a hard C.. .
It comes from the Greek χ and really should be a voiceless fricative, like the “ch” in “loch”, but it pretty much always becomes a ‘k’ sound in English (same as how “loch” is often pronounced as “lock”).

Cristl wrote:
Why is Machariel never in these lists, a word which I really don't know how to pronounce. The word looks like a Hebrew transliteration to me, so should the ch be pronounced like the gutteral scottish 'loch', or is it plain old "Mackariel"?
Same here — it should be the loch-sound, but almost universally becomes a ‘k’ when English gets as hold of it (compare how Michael is pronounced in the two languages).
Unezka Turigahl
Det Som Engang Var
#52 - 2014-04-17 17:00:12 UTC
Nobody has mentioned the Hila yet.

"You mean Gila?"

No, Hila.
Silvetica Dian
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#53 - 2014-04-17 17:01:49 UTC
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/anathema
whilst we are on this topic please click link, click sound file and for the love of jihad stop saying "ana-theme- a".
that is all

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Horus H'kaan
Grand Theft Enyo
#54 - 2014-04-19 07:14:07 UTC
Ishtar is pronounced Easter.

Seriously.

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Baneken
Arctic Light Inc.
Arctic Light
#55 - 2014-04-19 07:35:26 UTC
Luckily we Finns don't mangle letters with all that silent crap like other languages do so I can spell every single ship letter by letter if I need to. P

But mostly it's abaddon - 'baddon, megathron - mega, hyperion - hype, anathema - anateema (so you don't have to stop in middle for -th-), rokh - rokh, thorax -rax - or sotakurkku (war cucumber).
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#56 - 2014-04-19 08:02:38 UTC
Inxentas Ultramar wrote:
Abbadon is hebrew: Ǎḇaddōn.

A characal is English, a mammal: kærəkæl

Rokh is a fictional name. Whatever. I say Row-kh.

A Scythe is a tool, also English: saɪð

Out of all four, the Rokh is the only one that actually alows for interpretation or variation. The other 3 are pronounced either correctly or incorrectly.

do we have any source for such things?

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Jarod Garamonde
Jolly Codgers
Tactical Narcotics Team
#57 - 2014-04-19 10:00:27 UTC
Ibis seems like it should be pronounced "yih-biss"... and, no, we haven't figured out what planet I'm actually from, yet.

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BrundleMeth
State War Academy
Caldari State
#58 - 2014-04-19 11:35:55 UTC  |  Edited by: BrundleMeth
Much of this is wrong. People don't seem to understand that names dont follow the same rules as regular words when it comes to pronouncing...


My boss's last name was Gough. Spelled just like bread Dough but with a G. But he pronounced it Goff...
Nalelmir Ahashion
Industrial Management and Engineering
Mouth Trumpet Cavalry
#59 - 2014-04-19 14:56:26 UTC
Dominix

Po-Ta-to.
Seraph Essael
Air
The Initiative.
#60 - 2014-04-19 15:00:39 UTC
BrundleMeth wrote:
Much of this is wrong. People don't seem to understand that names dont follow the same rules as regular words when it comes to pronouncing...


My boss's last name was Gough. Spelled just like bread Dough but with a G. But he pronounced it Goff...


That's the point of this thread, to discuss which is right / or most popular way to pronounce it. Some people pronounce it differently, even if it's not necessarily right...

Would be nice (in my opinion) if CCP could release a name pronunciation list and what not Big smile

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