Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Could we just get a functional log out to character selection screen before we worry about anything else. Which should have been unveiled right when you allowed dual character training.

Would still make a rather useless bonus IMHO. You have better dedicated ewar platforms for the actual ewar work and actually using the gila for that purpose defangs the ship in terms of damage output. Doesn't seem like a decent trade that would justify people flying it that way.

Most of these changes are interesting but two are particularly pointless and will simply make us fly expensive cruiser frigates less - and instead we will fly T1s and AHACs which have more bang or survivability for the isk.



The Vigilant's main role lately is that of an incursion ship or heavy gate tackler that can be used with neutron blasters. But it is so expensive that it is rarely used in small gang pvp. Instead one can purchase a much less expensive Talos, Thorax, Deimos, Bruitx, etc. and other ships are used for webbing like the Rapier, I was hoping to see a buff to the Vigilant that would make its cost make sense when compared to these other ships. This set of changes to powergrid, velocity, and targeting range seems to encourage fits of medium rails or ions. But it reduces the value of the Vigilant. Please reconsider the powergrid nerf and buff the Vigilant's tank even further. Or please make it more unique - right now these changes will make it like like a Deimos that is difficult to fit.



I need to protest this change to the Cynabal. The Arty Cynabal - is sort of an iconic ship to a lot of us nullsec roamers like the Rifter, the Thorax, the Apoc etc.,... It's one of those ships that has its role and really doesn't need to be messed with. As it was it still had its uses and was only starting to be overshadowed by buffed T1s and HACs (like the Muninn). With this change to powergrid the Cynabal will no longer be the ship to roam in that it has been. The Cynabal will be overshadowed by the Muninn, Cane, SFI, Vagabond, and even Rupture with this change. Please reconsider this change. Most of us don't want this.

Otherwise the Gila, Ashimmu, and Phantasm changes are cool and give them all weird roles.

The damage was not nerfed, look at the newly enhanced role bonus.

Edit: misread the post, though it's not being buffed either by my math:
3*2.5 = 7.5 effective turrets
Vs
3*2*1.25 = 7.5 effective turrets

Well the missile bonus from gallente cruisers on the gila seems odd. I woulda had prefered something like MWD bonus for the drones.

totally agree would make life a lot easier when you have 3 toons on one account

I'm glad to hear this, because frankly the nerf is not required at all. I imagine that the Angel cartel ships are popular because they function well. Instead of buffing the others at the same time you nerf the Cynabal (relegating it to the scrap heap), consider using it as a baseline and brining the other ships up to par.

When are these changes going on Sisi?

By my calculations, 2 Hammerheads will have a top speed of 2520 m/s , when the 20% speed buff is factored in, with damage of 187.2 for each drone. These things will still be way way too slow to justify putting all that damage into 2 drones. One get popped by the target, and a huge chunk of the damage of the ship is gone.

As as I said earlier, the ship is utterly useless in an PvE environment, since the AI will simply web the drones and eat in them in 18 seconds instead of 3.

☻~The Phantasm: Being a better AHAC than your actual AHAC~☻