EVE General Discussion

The Catch-22 is it's hard to introduce actual game mechanics before we even have a place we can interact with other people.

This is why it needs to be funded separately from EVE Online and have the ability to both integrate with EVE and run as a standalone platform. Like Dust, but closer coupled / integrated to the EVE client as an option. (See here for a broader discussion on how it could work)

The benefits are that as a standalone, marketable entity it can have its own business plan, development direction and is more likely to be realised as viable. It also means it can be targeted at a wider audience and provides the needed enhancement to the concept of an EVE Universe, rather than just EVE Spaceships.

It is based on the premise that client side code sharing is possible, but anybody familiar with core Windows APIs will know it is

Who knows, maybe we will be playing WiS finally in a 10 years (!) and will see more than what there used to be - Caldari light marine - exceptional clone

I used Dust promo poster partially but could not find better lower part, so the feets are somewhat pixelated.

I've always said the easiest short-term development would be to right click on a guest in the station list and invite them to your quarters. And even then, I didn't think about the fact that despite there being no quarters customization yet, you would be able to show them different ships, which would be cool.

They've already said that's not happening, haven't they? The only realistic way I can see (And have said for all the time we've been waiting since Incarna's mess) is to go for gold. Put something together that can stand in its own right with a business model and a plan.

Simply tacking on tidbits does not deliver enough to make it compelling for a wider audience and you need a wider audience to help pay the bills. The people that are already playing EVE and posting in this thread are ... well ... paying for EVE. As long as they pay for EVE they're not going to get WiS as the money is spent on EVE.

I dunno about you. But I would like something large enough so they don't have to come back to it for a while.

No, not for me. What we have now is "something small" and what has been the outcome of that? A large volume of animosity generated towards Avatar content for a number of players, it being the scape-goat for the Summer of Rage, a few melted video cards and the disappointment that comes when a feature is dropped.

I would honestly have nothing at all beyond input and feedback from their planning and the resources wasted on "something small" saved and used in something that delivers meaningful avatar content with an actual purpose.

While I absolutely love this idea, it will never happen. We all saw what happened when the lack luster Incarna expansion hit. People went up in arms, rioted, etc, etc. CCP would catch so much flack from the vocal minority of the player base for "wasting time" on anything other than flying in space that they would have the riots in Jita all over again.

Sadly, if CCP were to announce they are working on this the alliance lemmings will do what they are told by their higher ups. Even if they would enjoy the content they will riot, and protest, and throw **** on the walls just because their leaders tell them to do so.


WIS is not a bad idea. The emergent game play we could get for Eve would be a HUGE addition to the game. Just look at what they were able to prototype in what, 3 months? It would attract a much wider demographic of players, and generally be a great step for CCP, and Eve O in. I just wish people would move past the stagnation of the game in its current state, and allow CCP to do innovative things like this. And I say stagnant in the sense that we get very, VERY few meaningful additions to the game. The new deployables were one, WH's were another. I can't think of much else that we have gotten in my play time with Eve (on and off since 2006). Unless they pull the modular POS system out of their asses for the Summer expansion I feel it is going to be another disappointment.

When we we be able to realy explore stations not just sleeper ones, why not also asteroids? Like the colonies all over the place.

After satisfactorily addressing the core mechanic issues of existing gameplay that are broken.

People were upset both because the avatar gameplay given was so bad and because the spaceship game was ignored for almost two years to make it. People will need to feel that the spaceship game has generally been properly addressed before they're prepared to see resources moved back to avatar gameplay, whatever the perceived outcome of the effort is.

Even more than simply going on past experience, I don't see how anyone can practically be trusted to make new gameplay when they're struggling to address glaring issues with their existing game(s).