EVE General Discussion

Lololololol. Please. Stop.

I have to had it to you.
You are consistent with your lies.
It does not matter how outrageous and wrong your statement is, you are working from Orwell's and tea party's playbook of "no matter how ridiculous the lie, if you say it long enough and loud enough, a lot of people will believe you".

His "lies" are backed up by CCP at fanfest.

Not just high sec, caldari high sec to be specific.

Bots go where the isk is, much like players. Neither of us have a problem with staying safe in null or interuptions. It has been shown that high sec combat pve will earn more in high sec so it is no shock that most bots are now found clustered in the mission hubs around jita.

Wrong bots go where they can consistently and without interruption grind out average isk over long periods of time. Please present your CCP data and also show how you link bots even in a tenuous way to best profitability of sec status.

I have presented my evidence to the forums, in the form of my experiences both running L4 and running combat anoms and have shown conclusively that you can make 10's of billions of isk per month doing several anoms in null sec per day vs grinding crap isk and LP in L4's in high sec all day and not making anywhere near as much.

That you're incapable of doing the same because you blued and rented out all the available space from the bottom of Period Basis to the top of Tenal and choose not to use that space blued and rented does not equal less profitability. All it shows is the majority of Goons and CFC are happy to allow all that isk to go to other people, primarily the heads of your aliances to make their RMT wallets fatter.

While you could probably spruce up some data from someone with no life who plays 23 hours a day running multiple accounts and blitzing tons of agents with multiple ships in multiple systems in high sec and makes as much its a disingenuous comparison vs me who can only play a few hours a day, does the PvE with one ship and one scout.

Anoms to missions aren't task for task, missions to missions would be, which means that I misspoke earlier when only listing availability as being a factor for just incursions. And even then, the difference comes out because of the secondary reward that is LP conversion, pointing out that anoms 1) are terrible in their own right in reward:effort and 2) are the reason null "can't be buffed" due to isk injection concerns.

Neither of those are inherently highsec's fault though.

Baltec, soloing L4s in hi-sec will not earn you 120 mil/hour. If you are very quick maybe you'll get 50? Now if w'ere talking about multiboxing it, different story. Anyways, I still agree about hi-sec profits overall.

As someone who runs multibox fleets sized 8-15, I can confirm hi-sec is the place to be when looking to earn max ISK/hour over a long period of time. Perhaps as a solo or dual pilot null is better; if you have 2 or more alts, hi-sec wins out.

I do everything from multibox mining to multibox missioning to multibox ganking. All always for profit.

Mining ore I can earn about 100-120mil ISK/hour
Missioning I can earn about 120-150mil ISK/hour doing 5 combat/mining missions at once (2 pilots each)
Ganking is hit and miss, not to mention I suck at it and lose all my ships half the time

Those mining/missioning profits can be done anytime, without any disturbance. Those are passive profits, calculated when only paying partial attention to my speed, as I am typically semi-AFK watching Youtube or reading a book.

The issue with null-sec is you cannot run fleets this size; you will be shot down too often. The ability to run absurdly large fleets in the convenience and "safety" of hi-sec is what makes the profits as large and consistent as they are.

100 million per hour is horrible. That's 10 hours to make 1 billion isk ffs. In 10 hours I can make the same from bounties and OE from running combat anoms. That's not including the very frequent high end drops that can range from 80 million to 1.5 billion isk per site.

I've made 2 billion off one single site, took me 20 minutes - Look at the chat text and that wasn't counting bounties or OE...

They'll tell you its rare but its very common to get half a billion or less in modules and frequent to get +500 million mods.

You mean mission systems?

Your claims are nothing but rubbish that has been proven to be wrong countless times. Anoms will at best give 90mil/hr with a less than 1% chance of a faction spawn which in turn will mostly drop tags and ammo. Of the things that do drop they mostly amount to things like DG cloaks and EM hardeners which sell for very little. Very rarely will you get a 100 mil mod.

Half a billion isk/hr is impossible.